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    Viking treasure.... Stolen

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-...ester-50461860



    This might have been on here before,, but it's back in the news..
    Gives detectorists a bad rep..

    But i am sure we all have thoughts about whether or not to declare a big find,, these dudes didn't.. got caught.
    'And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.'

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    When you boil it all down there are not that many reasons people search for treasure. If you are not in it for the notoriety, you're probably in it for the money. Thanks for the reminder as I am trying to pass through life unknown.

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    I can understand the whole thing...
    I mean every time i think i have hit 'the big one' , (every time i get any decent signal), then my mind goes into ...'what will i do?', mode.
    The old idea of chuck a few in the direction of the law, wait for the fuss to die down and somehow cash in on the rest... always creeps in...
    Hand it over, do the right thing, hopefully receive something of a reward and some media coverage ?.... mmmm, i dunno.
    If i hadn't looked, if i hadn't bought decent kit and spent countless hours searching and digging, then it would never have been found...!! It would have lay there forever rotting and whatever...
    I consider myself to be an honest bloke... but circumstances could change your moral code...
    Such a dilemma.
    'And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.'

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    distressing, and its not as if the finders would have recieved nothing
    certainly a better deal than they now have

    photos on a phone = true idiots
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    read 'em and weep guys, we're whizzing on our feet
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    Maybe there's a bigger plot to take it from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick67 View Post
    Maybe there's a bigger plot to take it from them.
    no lie, they failed to turn it in - now the hunt is on
    photos on a phone
    hope these idiots did not breed
    read 'em and weep guys, we're whizzing on our feet
    Americans never want to go back to the way America used to be

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    What idiots... and what the real kicker is... they ARE ALLOWED to detect and find things like this and are compensated for anything found.

    Sheesh.

    Do you know how bad I wish America adopted this same stance England has toward detectorists... just shows there is always going to be "bad apples" in a barrel.
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    Viking gold is stolen in the first place...
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    'And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.'

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    the items discussed were stolen from the landowner
    focus is good
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    read 'em and weep guys, we're whizzing on our feet
    Americans never want to go back to the way America used to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by AstralDruid View Post
    Viking gold is stolen in the first place...
    That’s something of an overreaching statement. Vikings were not just raiders. They were also some of the most prolific wide ranging merchants of the time. Let’s also not forget that even it was “Stolen” gold. There is a good chance that gold was either previously stolen or extorted by its current owner generally at the time, the church. Very few people truly have clean hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AARC View Post
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    Do you know how bad I wish America adopted this same stance England has toward detectorists... just shows there is always going to be "bad apples" in a barrel.
    NO! Involving the govt is NEVER a solution to anything. It only result in corruption, greed and theft by the govt, if they even let you search at all. You of all people should be fully aware of the complete block to any new searching for shipwrecks off Florida. Now expand that to every state in the union.
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    Important history has been lost, what a lie they won't ever know why or how it got there even if you turn it in. I remember seeing lost gold of the dark ages where the guy found a big hoard left, they have no ideal how or why it's there no more than you or I could guess anyway. If there isn't anybody around when it happened then one will never know, even if they left writting you would have to believe what was written even if it was a lie as one would never know. HH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madmox View Post
    That’s something of an overreaching statement. Vikings were not just raiders. They were also some of the most prolific wide ranging merchants of the time. Let’s also not forget that even it was “Stolen” gold. There is a good chance that gold was either previously stolen or extorted by its current owner generally at the time, the church. Very few people truly have clean hands.
    So Viking gold is 'possibly' stolen, from folks who 'possibly' stole it from someone else...
    If the vikings did earn it from trade, it was from trading goods produced on stolen lands, no possibly needed here, therefore it is the 'ill gotten gains' and by all means stolen..
    My home town (in Ireland) is 'classed' as an ancient viking settlement, and we haven't forgotten after all this time what they really were...
    History tends to warp facts, and recent media/entertainment portrayals of the 'Noble' vikings tends to increase their stock as something great in history... where in reality they were driven from their own harsh environment to settle other lands and they caused chaos and suffering on a massive scale for a very long time in their targeted lands..
    Maybe i shouldn't hold a grudge... but vikings are thieves...
    Brian Boru showed them the exit at Clontarf in 1014, thankfully.... that would be some site to detect on.
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    'And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.'

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    history 'says' that might makes right, and the victors get to write the history
    indeed, numerous peoples have the history of their defeats - so one moves forward ?
    or stews in past injustices ?

    the Vikings involved are loooong dead, good that the Irish are angry
    (the Brits are much more recent, but they were civilized)
    read 'em and weep guys, we're whizzing on our feet
    Americans never want to go back to the way America used to be

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    They would have been better off with the finders fee than the nothing they will now get + the legal fees out of pocket.

    If I put on my thieving cap I would not have turned any coins and jewelry in (Instant investigation) I would have quietly shipped these to the USA and then moved them to market.

    I am sure everyone knows that digital images are forever. If you truly need things to go away from your phone or computer. Destroy it and replace with a new one. I personally shred every hard drive I own before it leaves my possession
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