Victorio Peak Documents, Symbols and Artifacts

[Springfield]

Spring,

As I said a while back. It does not seem as there is any coincidence between WD and Noss at all. There was one map that showed six locations of treasure storage in the area, with a name prominently displayed on it, and that name would easily explain why a sextant was used instead of a compass......

Well, I expect to learn plenty about the map, locations, sextant, Doc's history before New Mexico and his relationship with Daught in the forthcoming book(s). If not, I for one will be disappointed because the events/people that led to the caches and Noss' activities prior to the deer hunt are the meat of the whole saga. What happened afterwards, while newsworthy, is nonetheless old news with many spins. I guess we'll wait and see if these books are going to be thought provoking or just more whiskey talk.

By the way, anybody out there heard anything about a couple of Arrey, NM, 'telescope cowboys' who got shot in the Caballos sometime in the 1960's?

[gollum]

Spring,

The books were initially a conglomeration of the personal notes of four partners in the search (one of which goes back to 1954). After the author went through them, he was hooked and began his own research and fact checking. He came up with a lot of information that none of the four partners had previously known.

If what I have been told is true (and I expect that it is), the books will be knockouts. I have a goodly amount of priviledged information on the subject, and the books will likely include most of that plus, plus, plus. I look forward to reading them.

Mike

[lostcauses]

"the books will be knockouts."

The first one does provide a great deal of documentation that most would have difficulty finding. It is a knockout.

It should be used for them that chase in the caballos and also the other Noss stories. You will not be able to get the info in the one book I saw easily. I believe from what I have seen of the first one, that the others will also be a great reference, and a must read by all THers to see what can go on. I don't recommend most books on the tales, the info is usually misleading:but at least the first book, I will.

Oh and gollum,
John's copy is the one I have seen, these book will be a must for a lot of reasons, but mostly for the documentation that is given.
I hope you know John V.. Figure you do. John is Don S partner in the area now days.

[Loke]

oh oh - not THE 'John V' ?

[lostcauses]

oh oh - not THE 'John V' ?

John V the story teller painter etc.
Listened to all them stories the women would tell him and his brother, the one a lot of people hunt down for info, etc...
Yep I would say "THE"
Short of Rex one of the most knowledgeable of the tails of the caballos

Probably not the one you may be thinking of. LOL

[gollum]

I think Loke is thinking about John V. Kemm? I pray that "V" is his last name initial. LOL

Mike

[lostcauses]

I think Loke is thinking about John V. Kemm? I pray that "V" is his last name initial. LOL

Mike

Of course V is an initial for last name. LOL

I take it John V. Kemm is of the peralta stones??

[Loke]

ahhh *sigh of relief*

[lostcauses]

ahhh *sigh of relief*

I guess I could go take a photo of the heart on the back side of the caballos, it fits better with them stones than the supposed aerial game, some play, LOL

A bit off topic.

Initials are for the last name. Them that know will know. A lot of folks today don't want bothered with every one hunting em down. I can thank Bill White or what ever his name is for assistance there. I have been lucky in that no one has in a year or so.

Hmm will have to see if I can find the women's maiden names in the Lorius and Heberer case and do a bit of research on them. Be interesting to see why they were carrying jewelry with them. (rumors and reports say they were).

gollum do you have a list of the jewelry the state police report had??
How about the maiden names??

[gollum]

That I don't, sorry.

Mike

[Connecticut Sam]

Many interesting comments.

[lostcauses]

Springy,

I know all about the Loriouses and Heberers. I have also read that story about Doc. How much is true or not, I can't say. While I haven't read the books yet, my understanding is that the author came up with a different version of the story. The killers are supposed to have been two brothers and the murders happened at WD's Cave in the Caballos (not Doc's). The redhead was not (according to this version) at the motel. She was standing at the car outside the cave. Three were shot inside and the redhead was murdered outside the cave while trying to run away. I haven't heard any mention of Doc in this version, but until reading the books, I (once again) can't say anything for certain.

Mike

brothers being the Palmer's?? or similar spelling.

[gollum]

The Palmer Brothers would be correct.

Mike

[Connecticut Sam]

Don't believe everything that you read or have been told about treasures. Lovejoydc@att.net

[lostcauses]

Don't believe everything that you read or have been told about treasures. Lovejoydc@att.net

Of course not. There of course is more stories "folklore" that real information. even depositions, and interveiws of and with people, are still people.

The other problem is getting locked into a belief of a story, closing the mind.

Does any one know of photos of the Palmer duo