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    Black powder double barrel shotgun. Number 18.0 under barrel and a marking in a cir.

    Double barrel shotgun black powder. I posted this earlier and was told to look under barrel for marking. I found a number 18.0 number and a couple other markings. One looks like a circle with letters in it ,see pictures. Any help will be appreciated.
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    "ELG" is a common Belgian proof house mark. Over in Europe firearms are still proof tested today. They load the gun with an overcharge and fire it, the gun is now proven to accept a normal charge. If you put "shotgun proof marks" into google you might find both the "ELG" in an oval (with crown?), and also the maker's mark which is likely that arrow shaped mark next to the proof mark or possibly the "*LA" beneath.

    The "18.0" is possibly the choke constriction for a 12 gauge in millimeters, or possibly inside barrel diameter but a true 12ga. bore is closer to 18.4 millimeters, iirc.
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    Thank you. Is there any worth to this gun?
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    $125-$250?

    The Belgians made a heck of a lot of guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckshot View Post
    $125-$250?

    The Belgians made a heck of a lot of guns.
    Thats a heavy price; hit a euro flea market, give it some time and you will find one for about 60 bucks. no black powder openly for sale, there for it can not be used. same goes for breach loaders at a certain age, even though you can still have ammo made, governments are not exactly threatened by someone willing to spend 300 bucks for one custom round.
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    I'm not an Idiot Whisperer. I can't help you any further with the math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddjob View Post
    Thats a heavy price; hit a euro flea market, give it some time and you will find one for about 60 bucks. no black powder openly for sale, there for it can not be used. same goes for breach loaders at a certain age, even though you can still have ammo made, governments are not exactly threatened by someone willing to spend 300 bucks for one custom round.
    Sounds like it is time to travel to Europe and buy up all the rare Black Powder guns, bring them back to the States and make a fortune on them. I wonder if I could get a steal on some old W.W. Greener and Holland & Holland guns!!!??

    It looks like you retired to the State where a lot of those folks that are on Interpol's Wanted List are hiding. What's up with that? Must have gotten tired of hanging out in all those Villas in Italy, Spain, the French Rivera and elsewhere, huh!!??
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    I would not hesitate to drop a couple hundred dollars on one like that.
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    wish someone would drop two hundy on my siamese mauser
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    Quote Originally Posted by sawmill man View Post
    I would not hesitate to drop a couple hundred dollars on one like that.
    Perfect!

    At what point would you hesitate? 'Cause then we know what it is worth.

    At least to one man anyways.
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    Im defiantly not a gun trader , but if my wife would let me i would go 275 maby 300. lol. dont see many rabbit ears around me anymore, not in shotable shape that is. Is this what they call a Belgian trade gun ? if so i saw one a while back on a online gun auction for 475 if that helps any.
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    Thank you!
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    You might want to have that thing checked out by a gunsmith before anybody tries to shoot it. You can check yourself to see if it is still loaded, in which case it would probably be too corroded to fire, by sticking the ram rod down and making sure it hits the breech in both barrels.
    Last edited by Duckshot; Apr 25, 2018 at 09:36 AM.
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    Thanks . I dropped it off Friday still waiting to hear what he says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfox View Post
    Thanks . I dropped it off Friday still waiting to hear what he says.
    If you could tell us what the gunsmith says it would be delightful.
    "Ah! But a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a Heaven for?" - R. Browning.

    'When you wish upon a star, makes no difference who you are
    everything your heart desires will come to you'
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    Will do. Still waiting to hear from him.

 

 
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