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  1. #1
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    Meteorite Nut

    Mar 2009
    Florida
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    (SOLVED) Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Hi Folks!

    I found this nifty little thingmobob many years ago and it's been laying in one of my junk drawers ever since. With the price of gold going up, I figured it might be worth taking another look at it. After doing some searching on the web, I can't identify it. It looks like it might be military or police because it has a pair of chevrons on it.

    On the reverse side is an inscription that reads - 14K EMB and something that looks like CTO (logo?) and a little (r) registered symbol.

    It also has 2 small gemstones set in it that are either diamonds or cubic zirconia.

    Can anyone tell me what this is and what value it might have?

    Thanks in advance!

    MikeG
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    Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites - http://www.galactic-stone.com

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  3. #2
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    Jul 2009
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    totally wild guess, but could it be for years of service ( in increments of five years for United Airlines for example, which uses diamonds and wings)
    johnnyi

  4. #3
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    Meteorite Nut

    Mar 2009
    Florida
    Tesoro Compadre
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Thanks Johnny. I never considered that it might be airline related.

    It weighs 1.76 grams, so it's gold value is probably small. But if the diamonds are real, it might be worth messing with.

    Best regards,

    MikeG
    Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites - http://www.galactic-stone.com

  5. #4
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    No , don't count on my guess here intergalactic dude. Like I said, very wild guess (with emphasis on "wild guess") .
    johnnyi

  6. #5
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    Dec 2004
    South Florida
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    cTo is apparently a trademark. Heres another with the same backmark. http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-14K-YG-G...07151004r28282
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  7. #6
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    Meteorite Nut

    Mar 2009
    Florida
    Tesoro Compadre
    29

    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    LOL. Well, your guess is as good as any I have heard yet.
    Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites - http://www.galactic-stone.com

  8. #7
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Ah! , my wild guess was correct. it is a pin for years of good service.
    johnnyi

  9. #8
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Galactic stone, you are too kind. I doubt if we'll have much luck narrowing it down to the company or (probably semi civilian) branch that used chevrons though, but we may!
    johnnyi

  10. #9
    us
    Meteorite Nut

    Mar 2009
    Florida
    Tesoro Compadre
    29

    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Nice catch Big Cypress Hunter!

    That is similar. So is it correct to assume that it's solid gold? I was wondering if EMB might mean it's electroplated or gold fill or something.

    I looked at the stones with a loupe, but I'm no gemologist, so I don't know if I am looking at a diamond or not. Given the size, I guess they might be a .25 carat each. If so, that's a half carat of diamond and that might be worth liquidating. That's what I am hoping.
    Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites - http://www.galactic-stone.com

  11. #10

    Sep 2006
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Could the chevrons and stars (diamond stars) indicate a level that someone achieved in the martial arts?
    They would indicate progress and achievement in this sport. Maybe someone won a contest?


  12. #11
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    My guess is from the 1940's. http://vintagejewelryheaven.com/inde...ucts_id=104993


    T (CTO) *JEWELRY TRADEMARK USED BY O.C. TANNER JEWELRY CO., SALT LAKE CITY, UT FOR FRATERNAL JEWELRY SINCE 1940

    http://www.tace.com/vendors/bjarrett/OJAT.html

    Incorporated 1927 http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html

  13. #12
    us
    Dec 2004
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    After reading the links, I conclude its an Employee Recognition Pin 1945-1955? era. I dont know what EMB means.

  14. #13

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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Bigcypresshunter...hats off to you!
    Yes...that makes perfect sense...you are simply amazing!

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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Looks like a "chevron" gas symbol. No two diamonds are alike so, if Diamonds are real you will amost always see "clouds" or inclusions.

  16. #15
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    monty

    Jan 2005
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Corporal chevron symbol given to a service member or police officer as a congratulatory item on a promotion? Monty
    Don't make me loose the hounds! If you dig, Cover up your holes.

  17. #16
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    Jul 2009
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    "I know airlines wouldn't hand out pins of gold and diamonds...LOL
    Look at mine...cheap quality...LOL
    Could the chevrons and stars (diamond stars) indicate a level that someone achieved in the martial arts?"

    Elle darling, unfortunately you are wrong. United Airlines hands out good service pins to their emplyees every five years which contain a small diamond (closer in size to a diamond chip, but a diamond none the less).
    johnnyi

  18. #17
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    Dec 2004
    South Florida
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by elle
    Johnnyi...I am wrong and picked the wrong airline to boot...I could have had diamonds by now!
    lol

  19. #18
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    Jul 2009
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Elle, these were some of my wife's dealios which first reminded me of "years of service". United would give you the little diamond in the wing for every five years service. The medal they'd give out after ten years with a diamond for every five years of service (20 years service in this one). Notice they incorporate the chevron also into the medal.
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  20. #19

    Sep 2006
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    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Johnnyi...that is really a nice piece.
    Thank you for sharing and taking the time to snap a picture.
    Ask your wife if she ever wore the hat with her uniform. I wanted one so badly years ago...we could wear a hat but only if we found one of the originals (uniform company stopped making new ones).
    I had flyers posted in New York and London...but no luck.
    Imagine now what the vintage airline uniforms would go for?

    Anyways...see if this is correct.
    EMB stands for "embossed"? On Ebay an item description says: "You are bidding on a Pin made of 10 Embossed Gold and other metals"-----10K EMB.

    http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170355428149

    Embossed definition: The design or text formed in the metal is raised above its surface, the opposite of engraving.
    But is this only one definition of "embossed"? Doesn't the Ebay item description sound like it has to do with the mixture of the amount of gold and other metals combined?





  21. #20
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
    70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
    23,606
    744 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting

    Re: Gold Tie or Lapel Pin with possible diamonds. What is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by elle
    Anyways...see if this is correct.
    EMB stands for "embossed"? On Ebay an item description says: "You are bidding on a Pin made of 10 Embossed Gold and other metals"-----10K EMB.

    http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170355428149

    Embossed definition: The design or text formed in the metal is raised above its surface, the opposite of engraving.
    But is this only one definition of "embossed"? Doesn't the Ebay item description sound like it has to do with the mixture of the amount of gold and other metals combined?




    I dont know. Could it be "embedded"? http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/EMB

 

 
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