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Nov 22, 2009, 02:21 PM
#1
Large Cent ? Half Penny?
Can you tell me what kind of Large Cent this is or Half Penny ? Maybe a date ? I have never seen one with this type lettering on it . Thanks Mark
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Nov 22, 2009, 02:22 PM
#2
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
British William III Halfpenny 1690s 
http://www.icollector.com/images/120..._0141_1_lg.jpg
Similar one above
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Nov 22, 2009, 02:34 PM
#3
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
So are you saying they didnt make this type in the 1700s if so this is my oldest coin yet .Thanks Mark
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Nov 22, 2009, 02:36 PM
#4
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
To further clarify on your coin, it is a Type 3 (Right hand on knee, date in exregue) and I think it looks like 1700 for a date. Type 3 is 1699-1701 time frame.
By the way, that is a lot of detail left on that copper for a William III, most are worn smooth or nearly smooth on the Reverse and Righthand side of Obverse usually worn away, so you got a good one for that series of Halfpence.
Don
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Nov 22, 2009, 02:39 PM
#5
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
 Originally Posted by T Hunter
So are you saying they didnt make this type in the 1700s if so this is my oldest coin yet .Thanks Mark
my mistake, I see the 1700 & the Britannia has right hand on knee. I guessed the most likely (1695-98) & got it wrong. So 1700 This issue is 1699-1701.
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Nov 22, 2009, 02:41 PM
#6
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
To further clarify on your coin, it is a Type 3 (Right hand on knee, date in exregue) and I think it looks like 1700 for a date. Type 3 is 1699-1701 time frame.
By the way, that is a lot of detail left on that copper for a William III, most are worn smooth or nearly smooth on the Reverse and Righthand side of Obverse usually worn away, so you got a good one for that series of Halfpence.
Don
yeah I wrote at the same time Realised it was the later issue
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Nov 22, 2009, 02:44 PM
#7
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
Thanks for all the info you guys are on it . Mark
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Nov 22, 2009, 02:49 PM
#8
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
I swear the more i look at the date it looks like 1698 i know that out of the time frame but ? I will post more pics and see what you guys think
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Nov 22, 2009, 03:04 PM
#9
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
It looks like 16?? tell me what you think Thanks Mark
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Nov 22, 2009, 03:18 PM
#10
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
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Nov 22, 2009, 03:44 PM
#11
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
 Originally Posted by T Hunter
New Pictures
1699 then, start of the later type. Got there eventually
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Nov 22, 2009, 04:02 PM
#12
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Nov 22, 2009, 04:08 PM
#13
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
 Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
Nice find from your side of the water  16?? all right  I'm amazed at the dates given on something thats unlegable
SS
Its not the visibility of the date that gives it away, its the type (right hand on knee) which start in 1699. As you say 16??, so has to be 1699, look carefully & you can see the tops of the 99 (look a bit like the 00 we thought we saw earlier). The earlier type has right hand in air.
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Nov 22, 2009, 04:11 PM
#14
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
 Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
Nice find from your side of the water  16?? all right  I'm amazed at the dates given on something thats unlegable
SS
The coin matches exactly a 1699 in my 1965 British Copper Coins Book. The original photos hard to say, but the date looked more like 00 at the end, but it was said, that is a Type 3 reverse which only were dated 1699-1701. The period immediately following the A in BRITTANIA also matches it being a 1699, the 1700 ones the period is further away. 
The photo I included shows the 3 Types of Reverses which help date the William III coppers....
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Nov 22, 2009, 04:14 PM
#15
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
 Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
Nice find from your side of the water  16?? all right  I'm amazed at the dates given on something thats unlegable
SS
The coin matches exactly a 1699 in my 1965 British Copper Coins Book. The original photos hard to say, but the date looked more like 00 at the end, but it was said, that is a Type 3 reverse which only were dated 1699-1701. The period immediately following the A in BRITTANIA also matches it being a 1699, the 1700 ones the period is further away.
The photo I included shows the 3 Types of Reverses which help date the William III coppers....
That illustrates it better than my words
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Nov 22, 2009, 04:17 PM
#16
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
You just broken into the 1600s Great achievement for the US (I believe)
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Nov 22, 2009, 04:19 PM
#17
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
Ahhh yes books you can never have enough books 
SS
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Nov 22, 2009, 04:23 PM
#18
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
 Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
Ahhh yes books you can never have enough books
SS
I know, I think my collectorholic nature means I need another book shelf Got to make room for CW Peck.
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Nov 22, 2009, 04:46 PM
#19
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
Thanks for the picture and all the info . Mark
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Nov 22, 2009, 05:36 PM
#20
Re: Large Cent ? Half Penny?
Yep, no doubt there.... 1699. I've never dug a brit copper that old in which I could see the year. Good one!
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