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    umrgolf

    1700's small SWORD quillion block.. NEW PICS!

    Hey, I picked this up at a park in NY last year and never knew what it was... You can see the face engraved on both sides.. I think its a dagger but Im not sure.. Any ideas would be appreciated and I was curious to the period too.. Thanks Jeff

    UPDATE-- thanks to those of you who helped.. It was posted on swordforum.com and id'ed as a quillion block from a small sword in the 1700's

    UPDATE 2-- wanted to add some new pics after I scraped a little crud off this beauty.. I tried to give more of a 3-D idea of the face on both sides... If you notice, its not exactly the same figure on both sides.. It looks like his mouth is open on one side and closed on the other
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  2. #2
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    Re: DAGGER?

    It does look very much like the broken hilt to a dagger or more likely sword (rapier), possibly 18th century. It's interesting that the outside casting is very much like the object posted here a while ago ( http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,284954.0.html ) which might also be the "joint" between handle and what went beneath it (maybe wooden salad spoon or fork in that case)
    johnnyi

  3. #3
    umrgolf

    Re: DAGGER?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi
    It does look very much like the broken hilt to a dagger or more likely sword (rapier), possibly 18th century. It's interesting that the outside casting is very much like the object posted here a while ago ( http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,284954.0.html ) which might also be the "joint" between handle and what went beneath it (maybe wooden salad spoon or fork in that case)
    thanks johnny, like i said, it was always just a very odd piece and I've often wondered... i thought it might be a 17th or 18th century dagger hilt but I'm not good with id'ing things at all.. jeff

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    Re: DAGGER?

    Jeff, any chance you might knock some of the mud out of the inside? (I understand f you don't want to, because i get "attached" to some mud on my relics sometimes ) If you do clean it out though, it might possibly show a round area in the central part of the casting (possibly to confrom to the blade's shank) which might help to i.d. the other relic who's link is above.
    johnnyi

  5. #5
    umrgolf

    Re: DAGGER?

    sure give me a few minutes

  6. #6
    umrgolf

    Re: DAGGER?

    Ok, I hope this helps... the 1st is the top.. you can see down towards the bottom a bit of an oval shaped hole that is formed by a platform inside near the bottom... 2nd and 3rd pics show bottom.. 4th is other side view
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    Re: DAGGER/SWORD hilt?

    That's what it looks like to me--but you should post it on this forum:

    http://www.swordforum.com/

    That site is crawling with sword experts from all over the world. They will likely be able to tell you whether it is a hilt or not, and if it is a hilt the will probably be able to narrow down the age of the item to within a decade. Heck, they even gave me a list three possible manufacturers for the piece I posted there last year.


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  8. #8
    umrgolf

    Re: DAGGER/SWORD hilt?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    That's what it looks like to me--but you should post it on this forum:

    http://www.swordforum.com/

    That site is crawling with sword experts from all over the world. They will likely be able to tell you whether it is a hilt or not, and if it is a hilt the will probably be able to narrow down the age of the item to within a decade. Heck, they even gave me a list three possible manufacturers for the piece I posted there last year.


    Cheers,


    Buckleboy
    thanks for that link ill post it now.. Jeff

  9. #9
    umrgolf

    Re: DAGGER/SWORD hilt?

    BB, if you read this, I can't post on that forum for some reason?? started an account and activated it and it wont let me start a new thread.. something im missing maybe?

  10. #10
    umrgolf

    Re: DAGGER/SWORD hilt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rando
    Quote Originally Posted by umrgolf2000
    BB, if you read this, I can't post on that forum for some reason?? started an account and activated it and it wont let me start a new thread.. something im missing maybe?
    A lot of forums have a limit on starting threads, usually to prevent spamming. You usually have to make five of so posts first...
    thanks rando, ill try that

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    Re: DAGGER/SWORD hilt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rando
    Quote Originally Posted by umrgolf2000
    BB, if you read this, I can't post on that forum for some reason?? started an account and activated it and it wont let me start a new thread.. something im missing maybe?
    A lot of forums have a limit on starting threads, usually to prevent spamming. You usually have to make five of so posts first...
    Maybe they have changed the settings since I got my membership...I was able to post immediately after getting an account.

    I would offer to post it for you, but I can't remember my password or user name now... I will try to dig it that information out.


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  12. #12
    umrgolf

    Re: DAGGER/SWORD hilt?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    Quote Originally Posted by Rando
    Quote Originally Posted by umrgolf2000
    BB, if you read this, I can't post on that forum for some reason?? started an account and activated it and it wont let me start a new thread.. something im missing maybe?
    A lot of forums have a limit on starting threads, usually to prevent spamming. You usually have to make five of so posts first...
    Maybe they have changed the settings since I got my membership...I was able to post immediately after getting an account.

    I would offer to post it for you, but I can't remember my password or user name now... I will try to dig it that information out.


    -BB
    If you find it let me know.. That place will not let me post Everytime I click new thread it tells me im not authorized.. jeff

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    Re: DAGGER/SWORD hilt?

    Yep...sword hilt. Here's one I found this past fall.

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    Re: DAGGER/SWORD hilt?

    Jeff that is really cool. Did you find out anything more about it?
    Debby

  15. #15
    umrgolf

    Re: DAGGER/SWORD hilt?

    Quote Originally Posted by romeo-1
    Yep...sword hilt. Here's one I found this past fall.

    thanks romeo!.. any ideas on period?

    Quote Originally Posted by cntrydncr1
    Jeff that is really cool. Did you find out anything more about it?
    thanks, not yet.. i think buckleboy was gonna try to help me with this one

 

 
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