A friend saw this button and thought it might be a Cherokee Rose Button. I had never heard of such, and upon researching it, my button does bear a very strong resemblance to that button. I found the button on the following site. It is the third button from the bottom.
The main difference I see in this button and mine are the number of star points. My button has 8 points whereas the Cherokee Rose has 7. There are 2 extra rings of detail on my button vs the one in Mr Ridgeway's collection. Third, my button has both silver and gold plate. And fourth, my button is heavily domed. I cannot tell from his photo if his is the same, more or less raised.
My button is a heavily domed one piece that I have never seen the likes of before. There does appear to be some writing inside/on the back but I cannot make out any of it.
I have a photo of my button here for you to examine. I hope that someone out there is knowledgeable on this subject and can weigh in with more information.
I am thinking that this cannot be a Cherokee button because the star has 8 points. The use of a seven-pointed star was to symbolize the 7 clans of the Cherokees.
My hunch is that the item is a civilian item. Can we see a photo of the back of the button?
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Interesting. The arrangement of the 8 points is all over the place, as though it was naively crafted.
I look forward to learning more, from listening in on this post
I am thinking that this cannot be a Cherokee button because the star has 8 points. The use of a seven-pointed star was to symbolize the 7 clans of the Cherokees.
My hunch is that the item is a civilian item. Can we see a photo of the back of the button?
My thoughts exactly, can we see the back.
Looks Civvy circa 1800.
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When two Tnet titans ask, who am I to deny? Here is a photo of the back. Bear in mind that this is a heavily domed button, so it is difficult to take that into consideration from a two dimensional photo.
Hope this helps,
Still Waters
When two Tnet titans ask, who am I to deny? Here is a photo of the back. Bear in mind that this is a heavily domed button, so it is difficult to take that into consideration from a two dimensional photo.
Hope this helps,
Still Waters
OK, thanks that helps a little......
It is somewhat of a puzzeller The design is not unusual for a early 19th Century button, however it does vary from the norm. Usually the tall domed types are made in two pieces, hence that could have been the top piece & a base soldered on it. Yours seems to have a broken shank inside which I haven't seen in such a domed button. Maybe because its not British
However, I stick with my first thoughts of Civilian circa 1800.
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
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A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
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We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
It looks like it may have a wreath and some letters on the back. If you could clean that better it might be of some help. I have seen buttons domed like that but they were late 1800's and thinner. Can you tell if it definitely had a shank or if it it might have had a shaft instead. If you can't tell and there is no backmark it could be a rosette from an old piece of furniture.
The photo is a little fuzzy, but if you look at the bottom of the back there does appear to be some writing on it. Hard to make out even in the hand. It might just be a ring of details, hard to tell for sure. It does appear to be decorated if nothing else, which leads me to believe there was a shank set inside.
Still Waters
However, I stick with my first thoughts of Civilian circa 1800.
I agree. I have found several of the high-domed types in areas that date to the early 1800s. They were mixed in with imported British flat buttons, pewter, and tombacs.
If you can make out the backmark, that my shed more light on things. I have a good thread posted in the "Cleaning and Preservation" section on cleaning buttons. The toothpick method may bring the backmark out a bit more.
18th c. Engraved Silver Friendship Pendant
1722 Colonies Francoises French 9 Deniers Copper
"Le Bon Temps" Pocketwatch Winder
1774 Two Reales
1797 One Real
1831 Mexican Republic One Real
Four dateless Half Reales
1740, 1799, 1807, and 1811 Half Reales
1840-O Seated Half Dollar with MS details
1847-O Seated Quarter with AU-50 details
1838 Seated Dime
1840-O and 1853-O Seated Half Dimes
1824 Matron Head LC
Dateless Matron Head LC
Regiment of Artillery button (1811-1813)
1812 era Artillery button
One piece Eagle General Militia button(GI56)
1700s Navy Cuff Button
pre-CW Navy Cuff Button
GS Eagle Button
.31 cal. Brass Bullet Mold
1873, 186?, and 18?? Shield Nickels
1884 and 1905 V Nickels
1908-D Barber Dime
Trade Beads, Musketballs, Minieballs, etc.
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.