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  1. #1

    Jan 2006
    owensboro , ky
    646

    bear token?

    this token has: PPIE going around the top edge of it and a bear that appears to be walking. on the other side the bear is standing with its nose touching the date of 1915. please bear with me about the pix,s being bad. thanks for any info
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  2. #2
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
    Ozarks
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    Re: bear token?

    1915-S Panama-Pacific International Exposition Silver Token. The token grades Extremely Fine. We've never seen anything like this, the token is apparently silver, with one side showing a nicely engraved rampant bear with his snout just about touching the date 1915, the other side has a similar well engraved walking bear with the initials PPIE for the San Francisco Pacific PanAmerican International Exposition. The surfaces are toned with an antique gray color and the rim is plain (not reeded). A simple design, but no doubt historically important with the California bear and the reference to the Exposition. Something that is definitely worth some research, as it is certainly very unusual.
    Estimated Value $100-UP. <<<


    http://www.goldbergcoins.net/catalog.../chap104.shtml

    Way cool Jon!!!
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  3. #3

    Jan 2006
    owensboro , ky
    646

    Re: bear token?

    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyheart
    1915-S Panama-Pacific International Exposition Silver Token. The token grades Extremely Fine. We've never seen anything like this, the token is apparently silver, with one side showing a nicely engraved rampant bear with his snout just about touching the date 1915, the other side has a similar well engraved walking bear with the initials PPIE for the San Francisco Pacific PanAmerican International Exposition. The surfaces are toned with an antique gray color and the rim is plain (not reeded). A simple design, but no doubt historically important with the California bear and the reference to the Exposition. Something that is definitely worth some research, as it is certainly very unusual.
    Estimated Value $100-UP. <<<


    http://www.goldbergcoins.net/catalog.../chap104.shtml

    Way cool Jon!!!
    gypsy, that is the same coin but mine is not silver. i think it is brass. gal you were fast on that one by finding out what it was. i wonder if they were made in any other metal? thanks again
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  4. #4
    Charter Member

    May 2005
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    Re: bear token?

    It's the token portion of a novelty item called an "edge spinner." Check the edge, and you will probably find a couple of bumps or indentations. These are the points on which the token pivoted within a small frame. Flicking the edge made the token spin rapidly, and the images of both sides would appear together-- in this case, creating a risque view of the two bears mating.


  5. #5
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
    Ozarks
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    Re: bear token?



    Yes they made them in brass also ..........
    Set Category: Token & Medals

    Set Name: The Goya Collection

    Set Theme: Medals & Tokens from the Panama Pacific International Exposition held in San Francisco, Calfornia in 1915

    Set Description: The Panama Pacific Exposition held in San Francisco has been considered one of the best Worlds Fair ever held in the US. This world's fair was held during the Great War ( World War 1), & yet people came from all corners of the world to attend. Finding quality pieces from this event is difficult & challenging. This collection will attempt to assemble the best quality pieces available, including the silver & gold commemorative coins, all the So-Called dollars from the exposition, as well as, any medals produced by countries that participated in the event.

    Slot Name: HK 418A

    Slot Comment: San Francisco had this so called dollar made for the PPIE. This is the brass version

    Certification #: 1934003-004

    Coin Information: 1915 TOKEN MS
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  6. #6

    Jan 2006
    owensboro , ky
    646

    Re: bear token?

    Quote Originally Posted by PBK
    It's the token portion of a novelty item called an "edge spinner." Check the edge, and you will probably find a couple of bumps or indentations. These are the points on which the token pivoted within a small frame. Flicking the edge made the token spin rapidly, and the images of both sides would appear together-- in this case, creating a risque view of the two bears mating.
    pbk, i tryed to spin this token in deffrent spots and could not see the bears mating . maybe just my eyes?
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  7. #7

    Jan 2006
    owensboro , ky
    646

    Re: bear token?

    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyheart


    Yes they made them in brass also ..........
    Set Category: Token & Medals

    Set Name: The Goya Collection

    Set Theme: Medals & Tokens from the Panama Pacific International Exposition held in San Francisco, Calfornia in 1915

    Set Description: The Panama Pacific Exposition held in San Francisco has been considered one of the best Worlds Fair ever held in the US. This world's fair was held during the Great War ( World War 1), & yet people came from all corners of the world to attend. Finding quality pieces from this event is difficult & challenging. This collection will attempt to assemble the best quality pieces available, including the silver & gold commemorative coins, all the So-Called dollars from the exposition, as well as, any medals produced by countries that participated in the event.

    Slot Name: HK 418A

    Slot Comment: San Francisco had this so called dollar made for the PPIE. This is the brass version

    Certification #: 1934003-004

    Coin Information: 1915 TOKEN MS
    thanks again gypsy. i will use the info you gave me to look more up on it. you are a great comtributor to this site
    dfx. xlt

  8. #8

    Jan 2006
    owensboro , ky
    646

    Re: bear token?

    pbk, i did not think you were kidding me , i just did not see the mating bears no matter how i did spin it. if its a spinner or the other. i just wanted to know what it was. . you have also been helpfull on finds that we don't know any thing about. thank you for the link
    dfx. xlt

  9. #9
    Charter Member

    May 2005
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    Bear Token Update

    Here you go, Jon...

    You can see a B&W pic of it on page 10 of this PDF of a Fred Holabird catalog:

    http://www.holabird.org/americana200...ion13/cal2.pdf

    (Note: It's on page 96 of the original print version of the catalog.)

    Holabird's spinner has a token with blue enameled fields; they came in various finishes.


  10. #10
    Charter Member

    May 2005
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    Re: bear token?

    Sorry about that! I'm still trying to get the hang of my Alzheimer's.

    As added to my earlier post, it's actually on page 96 of the catalog.

    (It was on p. 10 of my Adobe Reader. DOH!)


  11. #11

    Jan 2006
    owensboro , ky
    646

    Re: bear token?

    pbk, i seen it on that page
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  12. #12

    Jan 2006
    owensboro , ky
    646

    Re: bear token?

    Quote Originally Posted by jon43
    pbk, i seen it on that page
    i guess it had to be on that piece to hold it in place to see the bears mating
    dfx. xlt

  13. #13
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
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    Re: bear token?

    Good job Gypsy and PBK! Very interesting. Nice find jon43.
    Another "what is it" solved.

 

 

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