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    Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Thanks in advance for your suggestions
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    I think it's a very corroded RR spike, flat point, ferrous metal.
    ship spikes are usually copper,
    Good day & HH, Herbie.
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    I would guess from a pier or other structure. The head doesen't look like a railroad spike. Tony
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Defiantly not railroad spike,
    RR spikes have no taper to them.

    I agree with pier or ship related.

    Hay2

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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Looks like the Rose head hand forged ship spikes we find in 1850's camps
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Quote Originally Posted by haybudden2
    Defiantly not railroad spike,
    RR spikes have no taper to them.

    I agree with pier or ship related.

    Hay2
    I agree with that. This spike is waaaaay too light for a railroad spike and it's way too big for a railroad date nail. Could be just a timber nail. Any old houses destroyed by weather in this beach area? Timber nails would be iron and not brass.
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Still say Railroad Spike.

    Right length.
    Flat Point.
    Head appears to have lip facing rear.
    Ferrous composition.
    The objects corrosion has thinned the body and head,
    There is no Marine related hardware with flat point, or composed of ferrous metal, that I have ever seen.(Hot dip galvanized through bolts used on some piers are an exception)
    I have been involved in marine construction, and have never seen a Ferrous nail or spike.
    maybe a photo of the head from different perspective would solve this.
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Quote Originally Posted by kuger
    Looks like the Rose head hand forged ship spikes we find in 1850's camps
    Are these Items Ferrous?
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Quote Originally Posted by kuger
    Looks like the Rose head hand forged ship spikes we find in 1850's camps
    Are these Items Ferrous?
    Yes,some are,mixed with non ferrous.In the late 1840's there was such a great demand for ships to sail to Calif.they threw anything together with what they readily had,even if they only made one trip.I am not saying they were(the nails)were made for that purpose,but we find them in the camps(salvaged from the ships and brought to the camps for reuse in there structures)I have an Archi report from the Hoff Store excavation in San Fran that also lists them as such
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Thanks Kuger,
    Interesting and informative,
    Would be an awesome find if one of these hand forged spikes.
    Given the circumstances at the time, Ferrous metal is an understandable,
    but certainly rare material for marine construction.
    Again, photo of spike head would be most helpful for ID.
    Good day, Herbie.
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    I find rail road bridge spikes from around 1887. They were used for putting together timbers not laying rail. They do not look like what you have.
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks Kuger,
    Interesting and informative,
    Would be an awesome find if one of these hand forged spikes.
    Given the circumstances at the time, Ferrous metal is an understandable,
    but certainly rare material for marine construction.
    Again, photo of spike head would be most helpful for ID.
    Good day, Herbie.
    Thanks Herbie,I just moved and all of my " stuff",is packed away....as soon as I can get to that box I will gladly post pics!!
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon





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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Railroad tie spike (large). Track spike (short). Iron, copper, and Muntz metal where all used in ship building. Iron, copper, Muntz (183?) and what ever was on hand after that. Looks like a ship or timber spike. Was this found by a bridge? Arty
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    Quote Originally Posted by TnMountains
    I find rail road bridge spikes from around 1887. They were used for putting together timbers not laying rail. They do not look like what you have.
    I kept thinking about that spike. I think I was wrong. Here is a timber spike from this bridge built during the civil war at Whiteside. Largest Union engineering feat during the war.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/usnatio...es/4152918453/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/photohound/1394035520/
    It looks kinda like yours.
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    Re: Found this at the beach today-Is it a Railroad Nail or a Ship Nail?

    At the beach find I agree with the ship or pier spike

    Quote Originally Posted by artyfacts
    Railroad tie spike (large). Track spike (short). Iron, copper, and Muntz metal where all used in ship building. Iron before copper, copper before Muntz (183?) and what ever was on hand after that. Looks like a ship or timber spike. Was this found by a bridge? Arty
    Artyfacts the large spike is a RR or a cripping spike? Length of spike?

    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,220289.0.html

 

 
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