Exploding Whaling harpoon??

[baywalker]

I did not find this metal detecting. A friend who worked in the bomb squad gave this to me. He cleaned it before giving it to me. But when I first got it, you could smell the powder residue. I saw something similar to this on "Auction Hunters" TV show where they shot it out of a gun into a whale.
But I am just guessing. Could use some help identifying it.
It is about 17 1/2 inches long and made out of brass. I can find no identifying marks on it. It has a plunger in the point that comes back and strikes what I am calling the fuse. Other that that, I haven't got a clue.

Jonnie

[Broken knee]

That's what it is, I found this. Air Date: Week of June 15, 2007
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This harpoon tip discovered inside a recently killed bowhead whale was probably fired into the animal around 115 years ago by an Inuit hunting party. (Courtesy New Bedford Whaling Museum)

An old harpoon tip was discovered lodged in the body of a whale recently killed by Eskimo hunters in the Arctic Ocean. Historians date the weapon to be roughly from 1890, which means the bowhead whale was at least 125 years old when it was killed.
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[SOUND OF BOWHEAD WHALE SPOUTS AND SONG]

CURWOOD: Sometime in the late 1800s, probably around 1890 or so, a male bowhead whale swimming in the Arctic waters off Alaska encountered a band of Eskimo hunters.

One of the hunters fired a harpoon, hitting the whale in the neck. But the bowhead didn’t die and continued to swim the waters of the Arctic for about another 115 years. We know this because in May another band of Eskimo hunters killed the whale. And when the hunters carved up its 49-foot carcass, they found a piece of metal embedded in its neck.

BOCKSTOCE: It's a piece of brass about 3.5-4 inches long.



This harpoon tip discovered inside a recently killed bowhead whale was probably fired into the animal around 115 years ago by an Inuit hunting party.(Courtesy New Bedford Whaling Museum)

CURWOOD: The tip of an explosive harpoon. And for the moment it sits on the desk of John Bockstoce, an historian at the New Bedford Whaling Museum in Massachusetts. It turns out that the weapon was made in New Bedford, which at one time was the whaling capital of the world.

BOCKSTOCE: We examined the piece and found that it was a model made after a patent of 1879 which was only made from 1879 to 1885, we think. It would have had to be shipped to San Francisco, where the whaling fleet was based in those days, and carried to northern Alaska. So, 1890 seems to be a reasonable estimate of when it was used. Either earlier or later by a few years perhaps.

CURWOOD: So this find provides direct evidence for how long whales can live. Scientists usually use a rather obscure method to calculate the age of whales—they analyze amino acids in whales’ eyes. And they’ve concluded that some whales can live as long as 200 years. But the explosive spear tip found in this whale provides much clearer evidence of its age.

This type of harpoon was manufactured in New Bedford toward the end of the 1800s. It featured an exploding lance head that would detonate once it embedded itself in the whale hunter's prey. (Courtesy New Bedford Whaling Museum)


BOCKSTOCE: The weapon exploded, but it didn't do much damage to whale because he lived 100 years of course.

CURWOOD: And consider this--It is possible the hunters who killed the ancient bowhead in May could be descended from the very same hunters who first attacked it more than a century ago. John Bockstoce says he found tiny scratches on the spearhead.

BOCKSTOCE: And that we think is an ownership mark that a native whaleman would have used. Because the Eskimos who have hunted whales for at least 2000 years up there for their subsistence, they mark their hunting equipment with their own particular brand. This has six little notches and we don't know who that person was, but it is definitely is unlike something that would have been done by say, a commercial whaleman at the same time.

CURWOOD: A century ago the whales were being hunted to the edge of extinction. Today, bowheads have rebounded, and though commercial whale hunting is generally illegal, Eskimos are still allowed under an international treaty to kill roughly 50 whales a year.

HH Broken Knee

[baywalker]

Broken Knee
Thanks - You guys are quick. This post wasn't up there 5 min. before you guys nailed it. I'm still amaze at the collective historical knowledge on this site. And the story about the whale was really amazing. Kudos to you guys again.
Thanks again,
Jonnie

[Bigcypresshunter]

Good ID broken knee. Heres the link. http://www.loe.org/shows/segments.ht...24&segmentID=7

[Bigcypresshunter]

BOCKSTOCE: We examined the piece and found that it was a model made after a patent of 1879 which was only made from 1879 to 1885, we think.

I couldnt find an 1879 patent. I found one in 1878.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=NZt...ploding&f=true

[StormSurge]

This post and follow-up is pretty damn cool. Where did your friend get it ?

[baywalker]

He was A bomb tec. some one brought them in because they thought they were some kind of rocket . He kept one and gave the other to me, but not before he cleaned it on the wire wheel,I have to give him A brake though, it was A long time ago before we knew any better.

Jonnie

[bearbqd]

Poor old whale. Lived that long only to be taken down by hunters in the end.

[StormSurge]

We live and learn. Anyway you have yourself a really cool piece of history when the good old U.S.ofA was at the top of it's game and the game then was whaling.

[Bigcypresshunter]

Green check please

[baywalker]

Sorry big still learning how to do this

Jonnie