nazi bracelet?

[awesomeperson5]

This is a recently found bracelet which appears to be nazi? I was wondering if someone could help me with what it is? and what its worth? Thank You!

[DCMatt]

Not Nazi.

Long before Hitler and his goons hijacked the symbol it was commonly used by Native Americans. You will also find it on many Buddhist temples and pre-WWII good luck charms.

DCMatt

[hammered]

Looks Aztec to me

[ffuries]

I concur with DCMatt on this, I see no Nazi connection with this bracelet.

Mike
USAF Retired

[Havilah_Springs]

Hello awesomeperson5,

Welcome to the Net!

Ditto with what DCMatt stated!

The Native Americans were using that cross long before the Nazis, you will see the same cross throughout many cultures prior to the Nazis.

H_S

[Breezie]

Double Ditto on it being Native American, not Nazi. Nice find, Breezie

[celtex]

Does it have initials or any markings on it? It looks to be an old pawn native American bracelet. Nice find! I found a piece very similar that predates WWII by many years.

[taz42o]

Search for American Indian silver swastika bracelet and you will find similar.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/75150705...indian-tourist

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/s...item/10006102/

[RGINN]

With dcmatt. Swastika was sometimes called the whirling logs symbol Old pawn is an interesting idea too, but the workmanship doesn't appear to be above average. It reminds me of some of the pre-world war II items sold in 'authentic Indian Trading posts' for the tourist trade. Probably German silver, but maybe real silver? Cool item still.

[Gecko]

nice bracelet.

It reminds me of some of the pre-world war II items sold in 'authentic Indian Trading posts' for the tourist trade. Probably German silver, but maybe real silver?

Reminds me, my grandfather (100% German) made 'Indian Jewelry' in the 1940's. They sold at a Trading Post shop in western Colorado. I still have a bracelet he made me.
cheers

[High Plains Digger]

Gotta ditto all the dittos on the swastika. I have a boy scout coin with a swastika good luck symbol on the back. A very popular piece, as it was used by dozens of places wanting to advertize. Plus in Raton, NM, there was the Swastika Coal Company that was around before the war, during the war, and only changed it's name in the 1950s. Someone on the forum not too long ago found a Coke advertizing piece, all swastika.

[Tank69]

that looks like an old Navajo piece ......which would put your symbols as good luck signs an not nazi swastika's.....its a beautiful piece of silver .

[celtex]

With dcmatt. Swastika was sometimes called the whirling logs symbol Old pawn is an interesting idea too, but the workmanship doesn't appear to be above average. It reminds me of some of the pre-world war II items sold in 'authentic Indian Trading posts' for the tourist trade. Probably German silver, but maybe real silver? Cool item still.

It does look hand made not machine stamped as those later "authentic" where. That is why I'd look for some markings if any.

[High Plains Digger]

I suspect it was stamped with a hardened steel stamp, like a leather working stamp. That is the simple way of making something like this. Whether it was Indian done, who knows? Until the 1970s, anyone could make something and stamp it indian made. I think Ben Nighthorse Campbell had something to do with that law. Look for a "Nighthorse" stamp on the inside. He has developed a following. My question--the law requires you to be indian to stamp it "native made" or whatever variation, but how does a Souix get away with making Navajo style jewelry? Just asking.

[BosnMate]

Ditto on Navajo, and I have an old tin saltine cracker box, that has the symbol on it, that pre-dates the Nazi's.

[Oilfield Diver]

The symbol, more recently known as a "swastika", is derived from an ancient Germanic runic symbol called the "sun wheel". It is composed of two 'sigrunes' turned 90 degrees of each other. Like many ancient symbols it is believed to contain power or have potential for a power or force. The sun wheel actually rotated clockwise for - shall we say - good fortune, which is actually opposite of the traditional swastika. Notice the trailing ends of the swastika 'flare' out to the right thus showing a counter-clockwise rotation. When the sun wheel is used in this configuration it can evoke strong power quickly, but ultimately will end in destruction. Clockwise is "light", counter-clockwise is "darkness". The Nazis' used many runic symbols in their pagan power quest to 'reconnect' the German people to their Teutonic origins. Prior to WWII you will find the swastika rotating clockwise on tokens, etc. as a symbol or talisman for 'good fortune'. As for the bracelet, further research into the other patterns on it may give you more clues as to its age and origin - be it modern or vintage.