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  1. #1
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    Two Mystery Objects

    Alright, hitting this forum like crazy. I knocked on a door today and got these 2 items. I haven't the foggiest clue what the heck either are:

    Object #1

    Heavy, egg shaped had what looked like a bolt through it at one time. Groove runs along the entire length of the back. The groove is tapered like it ran along a rail and was bolted into place. The front has the letters UFA right above the rusted bolt. On the back it says Chicago 4 and Fenton's 4. What is it?

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    Object #2

    Very heavy object. shaped like a wheel with a hole through it. No idea. What is it?

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  2. #2
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    Dec 2004
    South Florida
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Ox horn nuts?
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    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Be real careful with those .. I think they are pods from.............






    .............. the:



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    "Wherever I go .. That's where I'll be!"

  4. #4
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    LOL...
    Quote Originally Posted by creskol
    Be real careful with those .. I think they are pods from.............






    .............. the:



    Its a small world until you have to walk somewhere.

  5. #5
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Could it be associated with the Fenton Art Glass Company?

  6. #6

    Apr 2005
    Massachusetts
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    J.H. Fenton Roller skate parts?

  7. #7
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    On item #1, could it weigh 4 ounces? Could be a type of counter weight.

  8. #8
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Quote Originally Posted by vhs07
    On item #1, could it weigh 4 ounces? Could be a type of counter weight.
    Whomever manufacturered this piece had factories or offices in Chicago and Fenton Illinois. The letter fonts are 19th century or early 20th. I considered Chicago Scale Company but I cant find anything about an office in Fenton or a connection to UFA..
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  9. #9
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Quote Originally Posted by vhs07
    On item #1, could it weigh 4 ounces? Could be a type of counter weight.
    Whomever manufacturered this piece had factories or offices in Chicago and Fenton Illinois. The letter fonts are 19th century or early 20th. I considered Chicago Scale Company but I cant find anything about an office in Fenton or a connection to UFA..
    I think it's a scale counter weight also but I can't prove it.

    Someone in my club found a similar looking item in a Virginia farm field last year. The markings were different and it had a '3' on it. We could not positively identify that piece either.

    I think the stamped letters on the from are DFA - Department of Food and Agriculture. They might regulate weights and measures.

    DCMatt
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  10. #10
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    Oct 2006
    Herndon Virginia
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Quote Originally Posted by vhs07
    On item #1, could it weigh 4 ounces? Could be a type of counter weight.
    Whomever manufacturered this piece had factories or offices in Chicago and Fenton Illinois. The letter fonts are 19th century or early 20th. I considered Chicago Scale Company but I cant find anything about an office in Fenton or a connection to UFA..
    I think the fact that is says "FENTON'S" with the 's tells us that it is not a city name. I found a number of turn-of-the-20th century references to something called "Fenton's metal" used in bearings. Pretty sure this item is not a bearing...

    DCMatt
    Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing.

    Ralph Waldo Emerson

  11. #11
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    Oct 2010
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Hey everyone, thanks so much for the information! The counter balance idea seems right. I will post a pic of the rail opening when I get home. As for the huge, heavy item, i guess it could be an ox horn nut. no idea.

  12. #12
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    Dec 2004
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt
    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Quote Originally Posted by vhs07
    On item #1, could it weigh 4 ounces? Could be a type of counter weight.
    Whomever manufacturered this piece had factories or offices in Chicago and Fenton Illinois. The letter fonts are 19th century or early 20th. I considered Chicago Scale Company but I cant find anything about an office in Fenton or a connection to UFA..
    I think the fact that is says "FENTON'S" with the 's tells us that it is not a city name. I found a number of turn-of-the-20th century references to something called "Fenton's metal" used in bearings. Pretty sure this item is not a bearing...

    DCMatt
    I forgot about the S on the end of FENTON's so its probably not a city but maybe a company name such as Fenton's in Chicago.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  13. #13
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    Dec 2004
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt
    I found a number of turn-of-the-20th century references to something called "Fenton's metal" used in bearings. Pretty sure this item is not a bearing...

    DCMatt
    Not a bearing but maybe a bushing? I think you are on to something with "Fenton's Metal."

    The full text of foundry nomenclature describes Fenton's Metal as an anti-friction metal composition of Zinc, Tin and Copper. http://www.archive.org/stream/foundr...hrich_djvu.txt

    FENTON'S METAL. An anti-friction metal. Comp. :
    Zn 79, Sn 16, Cu 5.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  14. #14
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects



    http://www.southerncrossmetalrecycle...ons-metal.html

    Fenton's Metal

    A white bearing or anti-friction metal, employed for axle-boxes of locomotives and wagons. Typical composition: Zinc 80%, tin 15.5% and copper 5.5%
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  15. #15
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    Oct 2010
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Re: Two Mystery Objects

    Wow, now that is good! I found out that the landowner's grandfather used to work at the railroad station in town. Here is a pic of the rail guide:

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