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  1. #1

    Mar 2008
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    Colonial stuff and Buckle help

    Any body have any insight into this stuff. May have a colonial site.

    The buckle I found today 3.5 inches deep. Regiters 51 on my White's machine.
    Could it be silver it's heavy and has a weathered black hugh. Scroll looks like engraving on silverware?

    Near Francis Marion and Nathanial Green camp

  2. #2

    Mar 2008
    72

    Re: Colonial stuff and Buckle help

    Quote Originally Posted by bronco
    Any body have any insight into this stuff. May have a colonial site.

    The buckle I found today 3.5 inches deep. Regiters 51 on my White's machine.
    Could it be silver it's heavy and has a weathered black hugh. Scroll looks like engraving on silverware?

    Near Francis Marion and Nathanial Green camp
    Try that again
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  3. #3

    Mar 2008
    72

    Re: Colonial stuff and Buckle help

    Quote Originally Posted by bronco
    Quote Originally Posted by bronco
    Any body have any insight into this stuff. May have a colonial site.

    The buckle I found today 3.5 inches deep. Regiters 51 on my White's machine.
    Could it be silver? it's heavy and has a weathered black hugh. Scroll looks like engraving on silverware?

    Near Francis Marion and Nathanial Green camp
    Try that again
    One more time. Sorry for the large size pics.
    2 axe heads, 2 buckles chain links nail swagger stick tip
    NO COINS!

    This is a highground spot I found in a woodes area. There was an old Privet and a Ligustrum hedge out in the middle of wooded area. I'm wondering if it could be a colonial camp or home site?
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    Re: Colonial stuff and Buckle help

    all I can tell ya is those hatchets are dang old!!Pre 1860's
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon 4"& 2.5" dredge with a little luck!!

  5. #5
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    Oct 2009
    North Carolina
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    Re: Colonial stuff and Buckle help

    Quote Originally Posted by kuger
    all I can tell ya is those hatchets are dang old!!Pre 1860's
    Amen! Beautiful buckle too! Breezie
    Every time I watch Gone With The Wind, I think we're gonna win this time!

  6. #6
    us
    Aug 2004
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    Re: Colonial stuff and Buckle help

    The buckle is a very early cast piece with hand cut detail. From what I can see, it looks to be brass or similar alloy. From the shape and size, I'll venture that is a Colonial knee britches buckle. That particular style from my experience, is around 1720's or there about. Some of those early brass alloys are exceptional metal, and can come out looking nearly as splendid as silver.

    The smaller hatchet appears to be a "shingler", and should date late 18th century to early 19th century. The larger one appears to be a small axe of the Colonial era.

    The "swagger stick" tip is in fact the top or tip to a fancy parasol. The parasol handle was formed of wood, and this tip was pinned to the top. I've personally dug that exact same tip, along with a portion of the wood and the notched brass parasol ring that the struts attached to. My example was found in context with relics of 1780-1840. Parasols can date to earlier Colonial times, yet I believe this type of well stamped design in rolled brass was not commonly seen until the Industrial Revolution was in full swing by the 1820's or later.

    CC Hunter


  7. #7
    us
    Oct 2006
    Herndon Virginia
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    Re: Colonial stuff and Buckle help

    Quote Originally Posted by CC Hunter
    The buckle is a very early cast piece with hand cut detail. From what I can see, it looks to be brass or similar alloy. From the shape and size, I'll venture that is a Colonial knee britches buckle. That particular style from my experience, is around 1720's or there about. Some of those early brass alloys are exceptional metal, and can come out looking nearly as splendid as silver.

    The smaller hatchet appears to be a "shingler", and should date late 18th century to early 19th century. The larger one appears to be a small axe of the Colonial era.

    The "swagger stick" tip is in fact the top or tip to a fancy parasol. The parasol handle was formed of wood, and this tip was pinned to the top. I've personally dug that exact same tip, along with a portion of the wood and the notched brass parasol ring that the struts attached to. My example was found in context with relics of 1780-1840. Parasols can date to earlier Colonial times, yet I believe this type of well stamped design in rolled brass was not commonly seen until the Industrial Revolution was in full swing by the 1820's or later.

    CC Hunter

    Nice post! Succinct and lucid.

    I concur on the parasol top and knee buckle.

    DCMatt
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