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    Need help with this button

    Just found this in my yard this morning. It's probably brass (VDI +74), measures 7/8" in diameter. The back looks like "G.W. Simmons & Co." with some other markings - possibly S08 or 508. I thought it might be a more modern button until I searched the web for G.W. Simmons and found that company made buttons from 1850-1870. Can anyone provide more info or id that logo? I'm really curious now.

    Thanks,

    Jon
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    That would be a fun one to know what it stands for. I first thought it was just a fashion button but a closer looks shows what almost looks like the scales of justice and a pair of "B" intertwined. Faternal perhaps. Interesting find.

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    Does it say BOSTON?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter
    Does it say BOSTON?

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    Nope. Mine's not "& son's" but "& co"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnoh View Post
    Nope. Mine's not "& son's" but "& co"
    Yes sir I noticed that but I was wondering if yours said BOSTON.

    My question : "Does it say BOSTON?"

    Your answer: "Nope. ..."
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    The back looks like "G.W. Simmons & Co." with some other markings - possibly S08 or 508
    This is your button. I took the time to draw it out on paint. You may want to reconsider because I think it fits.

    BTW a very interesting button from an interesting company. I may search when I get a chance.

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    George W. Simmons & Co., Boston, Oak Hill, 32-37 North Street, also in Philadelphia. Jewelers, clothiers and dry goods from c. 1836 to c. 1887. Advertised army & naval officers iniforms on Jun 6, 1862 (Boston Post). In 1869-70, the firm became G.W. Simmons Bros. & Co. In 1881 firm was G.W.Simmons and Son; from 1882 it was G.W.Simmons & Co. Buttons probably are all post CW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duggap View Post
    That would be a fun one to know what it stands for. I first thought it was just a fashion button but a closer looks shows what almost looks like the scales of justice and a pair of "B" intertwined. Faternal perhaps. Interesting find.
    I think its 3 Bs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter
    This is your button. I took the time to draw it out on paint. You may want to reconsider because I think it fits.

    BTW a very interesting button from an interesting company. I may search when I get a chance.

    <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=650967"/>
    I can see Boston now - not numbers if you turn it the other way.

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Size:  37.1 KBIt looks like post CW 1882-1887 but I havent found a match.

    I see three Bs intertwined and a cross. I wonder if its upside down?
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    I've seen that exact logo before. It is a Baptist Boys Brigade uniform button. To see a non-excavated one, go here: 5197 - Waterbury Button

    The Baptist Boys Brigade was founded in 1887. To learn more about its history, follow the links at: "Baptist Boys Brigade" button - Ask.com Search
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCannonballGuy View Post
    I've seen that exact logo before. It is a Baptist Boys Brigade uniform button. To see a non-excavated one, go here: 5197 - Waterbury Button

    The Baptist Boys Brigade was founded in 1887. To learn more about its history, follow the links at: "Baptist Boys Brigade" button - Ask.com Search

    Great ID CBG!. I actually searched Waterbury but I was searching two Bs. It is a cross and a crown I guess..
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    Thanks for all your help! It would be cool to find out how it got on my property, but that's something we'll never know.

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    Was it found under an old clothesline?

 

 
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