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    Brass Parasol Slides? I Just Don't See It.

    I found another supposed parasol slide today. That makes two in a few weeks. I really want to know what these things are for certain. Please forgive me for being a skeptic, I just feel they were used for something different, what, I have no clue. Has anyone seen a picture of one on an umbrella? All the ones I have dug are at Civil War or earlier sites, and they have a hole through them, often with a steel pin through the hole. Any help is appreciated as always.
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    Yes parasol parts is what they are. There is usually two.There is one at top that dont move and one you move up and down to open or close the parasol. All the ribs that support the canopy fit in the slots on the parts you have.
    Here is a pic of wooden parasol Four on it. Name:  parasol.jpg
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    It looks like both your pieces are for the top witch are pinned in place and is called a top notch
    The bottom is usually longer and called a runner It slides up to open the parasol or umbrella. Sometimes called hub's.
    Go to google images and type "treasurenet parasol " You will see many of those.
    Its a good way to search treasure net If your not a full member.
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    I still am not seeing how these are parasol slides. There are no holes or hinges, just the one hole through the central shaft. I have an idea. Will post picture tomorrow.

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    I cant find a good close up pic of how they are held together.
    All the ribs have a hole in their ends , the ends go in the slots in the piece you have , Then a wire goes through the holes and in the slot in the piece you have.
    I don't know how to explain it any better.
    If you look at a modern umbrella They work the same way even if parts are not exactly the same.
    The one you have with a hole does not slide it is the top notch and is pinned to the shaft.
    But the one that slides is basically the same just not pinned , so it can slide up the shaft .
    Here's another link that might help. Also a pic of a wood hub you can see the wire in the groove that holds all the rib ends in place.Name:  hub.jpg
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    http://www.galtechcorp.com/pdf/Rib%20Replacement%20Instructions.pdf


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    Thats what they are
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    Maybe this will help with confirmation? I find these in the size you have found and smaller. Here are pics. of parts to a parasol found in one of my 1870's site.



    IM
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    That's excellent. It proves the umbrella/parasol-parts ID is correct, beyond any doubt.

    In all my decades in the relic-ID area, I'd never seen a "dug" mostly-intact umbrella from the mid-1800s. Thank you very much for the post and excellently descriptive photos.

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    Awesome I.M!!!I never seen those pictures!!Well done my friend!!
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    Thanks Cannonballguy & Kuger for the kudos! I'm just glad to help in a small way!!

    IM

    (Kuger - You have never seen the pics. before, because I just took the picture this morning, after digging through 7 yrs. of boxes from the site I have been working to retrieve the parasol.)
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    Ok I am a believer now! I have never dug one with the outer iron band still attached. Those pictures are WONDERFUL. This thread just turned greea, thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman! View Post
    Thanks Cannonballguy & Kuger for the kudos! I'm just glad to help in a small way!!

    IM

    (Kuger - You have never seen the pics. before, because I just took the picture this morning, after digging through 7 yrs. of boxes from the site I have been working to retrieve the parasol.)
    Boy,I know how that is!!!At least you have a great majority of your finds displayed somewhat.I have things I dont know about
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    The parasol/umbrella brass shaft rings are one of the often recovered items that is at first a mystery to many diggers. The top ring is in fact stationary, rather than a slide. Ironman's photos provide an excellent perspective on the function of these items.

    A further note of interest, is that the steel struts and shaft on parasols and umbrellas, as we see in the photos above, only came into popular use from about the 1860's on. The earlier parasols and umbrellas, of pre-Civil War vintage, will generally be of wood or bone construction in the shafts and struts. The wooden struts had a small brass cap affixed to the end, with an attachment hole for fastening to the steel retaining ring, surrounding the slotted brass shaft ring. These small brass caps are also often found metal detecting in early 1800's sites, and rarely identified as to original use.

    History of umbrellas

    CC Hunter

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    Here's some more sliders and toppers.
    this topic should be pinned somewhere, as these are often the first 'Whatsit' that people find.

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    Do you guys ever find the handles?








 

 
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