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    Question ??? OLD Copper Coin ID - Coin Guys Please HELP ???

    Dug what may be an OLD copper coin ? Was down about 7 inches, directly under a tree root.

    NOTHING is left as far as identifiers. just smooth and scratched up some.


    put under a 40X dissecting microscope (that lights up the object) and could not find ANY identifying marks, letters, or symbols, NOTHING. not a one.

    we could tell it was copper. just scratched up.both sides look about the same.

    it is about same diameter as a clad nickle. thinner though (about half as thin ?).

    Weight: 3.38 grams (.119 ounce).

    Thickness: 1.44 mm (057 inches)

    Diameter: 21.64 mm (.852 inches)

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    Coin guys, is this possibly an old copper coin OR do I have something else? real curious. PLEASE HELP.

    any hypotheses welcome!
    Last edited by Rogue Relic Hunter; Nov 03, 2016 at 09:53 PM.
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    It looks like a knockout slug from an electrical box the little notch is the part that would have still kept it attached to the box.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Relic Hunter View Post
    i thought of that also, but copper?
    That throws me too, that was why I put IMO I myself have never seen a copper electrical box just the shape is so much like one that is why I threw it out there maybe someone else can give a more definitive answer.
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    I agree that it is a punch, however it's not from an electraical box, IMO. I've seen similar copper punch outs, just not while I've been detecting..I've seen them on the floor of the maintenance department at work..and I've also had them stick to the bottom of my boot. If its something along these lines, it could have "followed" someone home from work ...just a theory.

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    the main thing is, this thing was really down there and hiding under a tree root. also, had a decent amount of patina so it is fairly old. about the copper blanks? since this is old, would there have been blanks back when? still not convinced this is not a coin. coin guys, what copper coin would be similar to the dimensions I listed??
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    I've dug old nickels that look like copper?
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    Growing old is not for sissies I thought it would take longer to get old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapperart View Post
    I've dug old nickels that look like copper?
    how old? there is not a mark left on this copper. nothing. not a single letter, number, anything. why i was thinking really old.
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    What copper coin, if any, has these dimensions?
    Weight: 3.38 grams (.119 ounce).

    Thickness: 1.44 mm (057 inches)

    Diameter: 21.64 mm (.852 inches)
    Don....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon View Post
    What copper coin, if any, has these dimensions?
    Weight: 3.38 grams (.119 ounce).

    Thickness: 1.44 mm (057 inches)

    Diameter: 21.64 mm (.852 inches)
    Don....
    that is exactly the question I posed. now we are looking for answers. lol
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    Knowing the object's exact metallic composition might help in its ID; it would certainly rule out many hypotheses.
    Don........
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    Even if it were a coin, by the time it's so worn it has no features it wouldn't weigh but about half what it originally did. You have to remember people have used copper since BC times. The idea of it being a punch out for connecting a pipe to a whiskey still, or a blank for stamping tags is just as reasonable. Got any railroads nearby? I've found several flattened coins that were train track victims. Just because it's round doesn't mean it was a coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon View Post
    Knowing the object's exact metallic composition might help in its ID; it would certainly rule out many hypotheses.
    Don........
    since we have no hypotheses as of yet, there are none to rule out. lol. it is copper. but, agreed, knowing the measurements i posted and that it is copper, this should rule things out BUT ALSO potentially validate other hypotheses.

    so far, NO hypotheses. thought the coin experts would weigh in, so for notta...
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    COIN EXPERTS ?

    What copper coin, if any, has these dimensions?
    Weight: 3.38 grams (.119 ounce).

    Thickness: 1.44 mm (057 inches)

    Diameter: 21.64 mm (.852 inches)

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