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    Need Help to Identify old Cannon

    Hello All,

    I need help to identify an old cannon given to me by my grandfather (pictures below). I was told it is around 1600 and is a signal cannon but cannot confirm. It has what appears to be "SPAIN" stamped into it which may narrow the search. Please let me know if you know anything about this cannon and it would be appreciated.

    Thank you,

    Ted

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    THATS COOL! Looks like it was designed to be pulled or pushed around, possibly on a ship, but that's about all I know... lol! Lots of folks here though that I'm sure can help you with specifics.

    Kace
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    Interesting appears to be an early breach loading swivel cannon. Thinking 16th century or so, maybe 15th century.
    Last edited by Tpmetal; Jun 13, 2018 at 01:39 PM.
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    15th Century Spanish Paterara Breech load Cannon is what google tells me

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    Cool, I'd have to shoot that off

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    Nice canon.

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    1st - I noticed this was your very first post - so, Welcome Aboard TeddyTaiter! You didn't list your state (or country) in your profile. So, you might consider jumping over to Sub-Forums: Select Your Area.... and selecting location information (i.e., clubs, hunts, finds, legends, maps, etc.) directly related to your state (or country). You might also consider adding your state (or country) to your displayed profile (SETTINGS -> EDIT PROFILE) so if you ask a question, etc. - people may have more success helping you (your location may help, etc.)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tpmetal View Post
    15th Century Spanish Paterara Breech load Cannon is what google tells me
    I agree wholeheartedly. Whatever you do, do not fire it unless you are willing to potentially destroy it (a little disclaimer, just in case) A measurement of the diameter of the barrel and an overall length would be most helpful. This is likely 4.652 caliber (that's inches mind you, imagine something the size of your fist!) and I am betting the barrel is around 22" long. If you should just so happen to be lucky enough for it to be loaded, the value increases exponentially. Are there any cartouches or proof marks? If so, could you provide us with pictures?

    From what I see, it looks complete. 15th and 16th century weapons often depicted animals or mythological creatures, so any decoration is important to identification also. Again, I would need to see the mechanisms much closer. It definitely looks as though it could use a little polishing with some oil on the exterior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna321 View Post
    Cool, I'd have to shoot that off
    Good example of the saying "famous last words".
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    What you have is a "Peterara"... "culverin" type swivel gun.

    And... IMO... this is a replica / reproduction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna321 View Post
    Cool, I'd have to shoot that off
    God forbid ya give that a try. If you do fire it stand way heck out a the way. If it didn't explode, it looks like it would jump of the ground and bash ya in the nuts. Now that would be a good YouTube video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AARC View Post
    What you have is a "Peterara"... "culverin" type swivel gun.

    And... IMO... this is a replica / reproduction.
    I had that thought about it being repo, what details lead you to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tpmetal View Post
    I had that thought about it being repo, what details lead you to that?
    It looks like a reproduction to my eye as well. Perhaps the most obvious evidence is the mark. If it were a 16th C Spanish piece it would likely be marked España - not Spain.

    It is a beautiful piece. A little too beautiful to be original, IMO.
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    Nice looking canon. I’m thinking the same that it’s a repop. Only a gringo would mark it Spain
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    Sheet metal holding the breech in place! Yikes!

    Ornamental only or maybe a noise-maker. But I wouldn't try it with a projectile.
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