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    Help with a Jade elephant i got when my father passed away

    My dad passed away not long ago, [ 83 yrs young ] and i'm going thru things. I was told by him that this elephant was his aunts, and she was a school teacher from around 1890 - 1930. He said that she went on many cruises in that time period, she passed away in 1951. My question is can anyone read the mark on the bottom of the elephant, its very heavy for its size and a very hard stone- cant scratch with a finger nail. , I was told it was jade and my great aunt may of got it on a cruise between 1890-1930. Any thoughts where it was made and the material are appreciated ----Tom-------Click image for larger version. 

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    Sorry that I can't help with ID but it sure looks like a nicer quality carved piece.
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    I can't help much either but it does appear to have been carved out of Jade. The marking(s) on the bottom might possibly be one of the Indian languages (Hindi, Punjabi, Bengali or Gujarati) and is likely the initials or other ID of the Carver.
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    Sorry I didn't catch this earlier but after checking out the pics again of the Jade Elephant, I am almost certain that it is an Asian Elephant due to the small ears, so that narrows the carving down to India or Southeast Asia.

    http://www.eleaid.com/elephant-infor...ian-elephants/
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    From my limited knowledge of jade... but yet some knowledge does exist...

    There are a few things I will just throw out there concerning this...

    It is unusuall to see the carving AND base as "one".

    IF in fact is Jade... IMO this would be a "Celedon" Jade... and a nice example of it I might add.

    Take a very ... very close look and see if you can see any inclusions... OR evn bubbles (meaning a glass)... WHICH I HIGHLY doubt... to me it looks good.
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    If produced in Taiwan, China or Singapore, the writing is the number 17.

    Possibly carved by worker #17 would be my guess so he or she could get credit and thus paid.

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    Hey Aarc, nope no bubbles or anything like that---its 1 piece of jade---would love to know the age and value
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    I got stone seal that looks kinda like it was carved from the same type of stone your elephant is. I'm not sure what exact stone it is and it seems many soft stones from Asia can have the description of jade attached to it. I've got a green stone bowl and what people describe it as, being made of spinach jade and it's very translucent in front of light.
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    I just learned that there is a translucent celadon jade that looks close to mine
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    First off Tom, let me say how sorry I am for the recent loss of your father.
    This is a tourist carved piece, likely dating to the 1920s - 30s.

    Lunch Bag posted some good information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANTIQUARIAN View Post
    First off Tom, let me say how sorry I am for the recent loss of your father.
    This is a tourist carved piece, likely dating to the 1920s - 30s.

    Lunch Bag posted some good information.

    Dave
    You may be Correct... BUT.. do not dismiss this as being a "average" or "not worth much" piece.

    The value of older Jade is steady... and one of the few consistently selling items in resale markets... especially on Ebay.

    Which is where this piece should be listed IF selling is the goal / option.

    The Asians who purchase these items on Ebay know exactly what it is and its true value.
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    IF this is to be sold...

    IMO... You should list tis on Ebay with a full disclosure stating that it was your fathers and you were told it was Jade and that you think it may be Celedon Jade.

    Starting bid of $100.

    Because if its unique design of the stand and elephant being "one solid" piece this takes this item to another level and would not be surprised if it brings 300.

    Reserve at 299.
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    PS... Dig... items like these have a weird thing all their own... there is a possibility of even a "bidding war" to take place on this piece.

    Ebay should be your ONLY selling option... REPEAT only selling option.... UNLESS someone hands you 300 cash.

    I only see ONE drawback to design... BUT this doesn't really apply to serious Jadies...

    Trunk down.

    The trunk down is a western superstition as far I a recollect and will not apply to the real collectors.

    Anyway... enough babble.

    Good luck.
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    Thanks everyone
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    Great piece I would keep it for sentimental reasons very nice
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