ALABAMA SEEKERS NEED HELP TODAY

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geno

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A simple email fax and or call saying " SUPPORT HB 125" would go a long way in helping get this passed. THey don't need to know you aren't from AL... after all doesn't everyone visit AL and hunt for stuff?... I know I do and sepnd lots of money there.

Alabama Public Hearing on SB128.


Our proposed new laws are now being considered in the Alabama legislature. HB125 is in subcommittee now in the House of Representatives the committee members are:

Representative John Robinson, Vice Chair
3479 County Rd. #33
Scottsboro, AL. 35769
256-259-6190
256-259-2434
Jackson County
[email protected]

Representative Tommy Carter
18216 Upper Ft. Hampton Rd.
Elkmont, AL. 35620
Limestone County
[email protected]

Representative Mickey Hammon
1344 East Upper River Rd.
Decatur, AL. 35603
256-350-4261
256-350-0375
Limestone and Morgan Counties
[email protected]

Representative Billy Beasley
56 North Midway St.
Clayton, AL. 36016
334-775-3442
334-775-3291
Barbour and Henry Counties
[email protected]

Representative Cam Ward
201 1st Street N
Alabaster, AL. 35007
205-664-6848
205-684-6841
[email protected]


We need you to continue to contact these representatives and ask them to support HB125.


In the State Senate our bill SB128 is going to have a public hearing Wednesday, February 16th at 8:00 AM in the Starwars Chamber of the State House Building. Click here to read SB128 http://www.ssdsupply.com/aucraP/SB128.pdf The full time lobbyist of the Alabama Historical Commission and the State Archaeologist asked for this hearing in an effort to kill our bill. It is very strange for a public hearing to be set at such an early hour and I know it will be hard for our people to get to Montgomery for this hearing. It is extremely important that you go to this meeting. We have worked for 6 years to try and fix the bad law that Alabama has now and we have the opportunity to change the law now. In 1999 the AHC passed the Alabama Underwater Cultural Resources Act. This law was passed by the legislators to control salvage of shipwrecks in Mobile Bay. The staff of the AHC lied to the legislators about what the law would apply to. We now have the bad law that requires a permit for a sport diver to dive in Alabama waters and just look around. We are also forbidden to find any item over 50 years old in the waters of Alabama. This is not what the legislators wanted but it is what we now have. The only people who can apply for a permit to find anything in Alabama are Professional Archaeologists. In Alabama there is a club named the Alabama Association of Professional Archaeologists, AAPA. This club has about 40 members. The members are either employees of or have strong ties to the AHC. Some of the members are commissioners of the AHC or their spouses. The 40 members of the club are not divers or historians but they are granted very special treatment by the law as it exists now. They want money to get permits for divers to dive and look for relics. Its all about money with these Professional Archaeologists. They were already getting grants and contracts either through or arranged by the AHC for land construction projects. This was not enough for the greedy archaeologists and they wanted to make money from divers. Remember these archaeologists don't dive and are not historians.


The AHC never intends to recover artifacts from our rivers. This statement is from a letter written by Thomas Maher the State Archaeologist of Alabama. I quote,"It is not our goal to find, remove, and conserve every possible artifact from Alabama's rich history and prehistory. We believe that excavations of Archaeological Sites should be the last, not first, option. We hope our descendants will have historic and prehistoric places to visit and study. In short we believe that preservation in place should be our first choice."
I don't think Mr. Maher understands that iron relics will rust away and nothing will be left to preserve.


These people are opposing SB128 and HB125. They are now contacting the University of Alabama, Auburn, Troy State and Jacksonville State colleges archaeology departments and students to come to Montgomery next Wednesday to oppose the citizens of Alabama. They do not want the citizens to have access to the public lands and waters of Alabama. Public is a word some people don't understand. Yesterday in Montgomery one of the representatives told me that the public and state are the same thing. He is wrong. Public is about people while state is a place or government.

The Professional Archaeologists with their vested interests will be coming from Alabama and Georgia to claim the public lands. We need to show up in large numbers to represent the people of Alabama. Please do your part by coming to the public hearing. I know its hard to get off work and get to Montgomery but if you don't we will continue to lose our freedoms. Our rights and freedoms are worth the efforts required to preserve them.

Below we are listing the names and addresses of the Senate Committee members that will determine the fate of SB128. Please contact these Senators and urge them to support SB128. Time is critical so don't put this off.


Thanks for helping,



Steve Phillips
Save Our Lost History
4515 5th Avenue South
Birmingham, AL. 35222
205-595-3052
http://www.ssdsupply.com/

Here are the addresses for the previous message
Senate Agriculture, Conservation and Forestry Committee

Zeb Little Cullman and parts of Lawrence and Winston Counties

State House:
Room 736
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7855

Business:
P.O. Box 930
Cullman, AL 35056
Phone: (256) 734-0456
Fax: (256) 734-0466

Home:
221 Fairway Drive
Cullman, AL 35057
(256) 734-6348


Email:
[email protected]

Jack Biddle Parts of Jefferson, Blount and St. Clair Counties

State House:
Room 722
11 S. Union Street, Montgomery 36130
(334) 242-7846


Business:
530 Beacon Parkway West
Birmingham 35209
Phone: (205) 945-6551
Fax: (205) 945-6557

Home:
2256 Pinehurst Drive
Gardendale 35071
(205) 631-4591

Tom Butler Parts of Limestone and Madison Counties

State House:
Room 733
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7854


Business:
136 Hartington Dr.
Madison, AL 35758
Phone: (256) 837-8374
Fax: (256) 837-4355

Home:
136 Hartington Dr.
Madison, AL 35758
(256) 837-8374


Email:
[email protected]

Bobby Denton Lauderdale and part of Colbert County

State House:
Room 719
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7888


Business:
P.O. Box 2545
Muscle Shoals, AL 35662
Phone: (256) 331-5312
Fax: (256) 386-0653

Home:
2206 Lisa Avenue
Muscle Shoals, AL 35661
(256) 381-7449
Fax: (256) 386-0592


Email:

Website:
[email protected]

www.bobbydenton.com

Jimmy Holley Coffee, Covington, and parts of Dale and Houston Counties

State House:
Room 722
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7845

Business:
Route 2, Box 254-E
Elba, AL 36323
(334) 670-3765

Home:
4212 County Road 364
Elba, Alabama 36323
(334) 897-5181

Henry E. ?Hank? Erwin, JR. Chilton and parts of Bibb, Shelby, and Jefferson Counties

State House:
Room 738
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7873


Business:
106-B South First Street
Alabaster, AL 35007
(205) 663-1831
Fax: (205) 663-1831

Home:
32 Oakdale Drive
Montevallo, AL 35051
(205) 620-0116


E-Mail:

Website:
[email protected]

senatorerwin.com

Ted Little Tallapoosa and parts of Lee and Russell Counties

State House:
Room 740
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7865


Business:
P.O. Box 2366
Auburn, AL 36831-2366
Phone: (334) 887-3472
Fax: (334) 826-7700

Home:
410 South Dean Road
Auburn, AL 36830
(334) 887-6552


Email:
[email protected]

Hinton Mitchem Marshall and part of southern Madison and north Blount Counties

State House:
Room 733
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7876


Business:
P.O. Box 297
Albertville, AL 35950
Phone: (256) 878-1631
Fax: (256) 878-2521

Home:
P.O. Box 297
Albertville, AL 35950
(256) 878-1534


Email:
[email protected]


Myron Penn Barbour, Bullock, Macon, Henry and parts of Lee and Russell Counties

State House:
Room 731
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7868


Business:
5 Court Square
P.O. Box 688
Clayton, AL 36016
(334) 775-9778
Fax: (334) 775-9779

Home:
302 Chunnenuggee Avenue
Union Springs, AL 36089
(334) 738-4486


E-Mail:
[email protected]

Bobby Singleton Bibb, Choctaw, Greene, Hale, Marengo, Perry, Sumter, Tuscaloosa Counties

State House:
Room 734
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
Phone: (334) 242-7935
Fax: (334) 242-2210


Business:
P.O. Box 548
Greensboro, AL 36744
(334) 624-3021

Home:
105 Cobb Street
Greensboro, AL 36744
(334) 624-5619


E-mail:
[email protected]

Gary Tanner Southern Mobile County

State House:
Room 733
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7894


Business:
P.O. Box 190368
Mobile, AL 36619
(251) 663-9043
Fax: (251) 653-9043

Home:
5750 McDonald Road
Theodore, AL 36582
(251) 661-4741

H. E. ?Hap? Myers Western part of Mobile County

State House:
Room 735
11 S. Union Street
Montgomery, AL 36130
(334) 242-7886

Business:
P.O. Box 160034
Mobile, AL 36616
Phone: (251) 471-6549
Fax: (251) 471-5811

Home:
3904 Yester Place
Mobile, AL 36608
(251) 343-1635

MESSAGES SENT... GOOD LUCK STEVE!
Gene Wiley,
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Jeff, I'm a dredger for gold (primarily in the S.E.), but all of us treasure seekers need to help each other... miners and MD'ers are facing the same issues...loss of access and use. We need to support and stand beside each other. I'll do all I can to help any other group of similar minded people. All I'm asking is a return of the "favor".

In the past, miners didn't worry to much about the MD'er and the MD'er didn't concern themselves with miners needs. With the onslaught of attacks by the "greens" and govt intrusion , the time has come for us all to pull together and support one another.

Thanks for your help in spreading the message.
Gene Wiley,
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HY GENO ; In my opinion, These days, Just about everyone whos Hobby Involves the Outdoors Should stick together. there's getting to be WAY TOO MANY factions out there who seem to want to put us in a BUBBLE where we are only allowed to LOOK & don't touch. we already have Museums, we don't need the whole outdoors to be one too.? I'v sent some E-mails, hopefully our Great Membership here at the TreasureNet are doing their part also.? ? ?BEST OF LUCK TO YOU ; jeff
 

Jeff and Geno, you are both rigth on the money. If we, as users of our public lands, do not unite, we will lose it all eventually. The strategy against us is to divide and conquer. They will pick on one user group at a time until all are restricted or prohibited.

Right now we, as a whole, have some rights left. It is only through unity will we assure that we keep what we now have and possibly reverse the trend to lock Americans out of their public land. No one should think for one minute that what is happening to another user group is not their problem because soon it will be your turn. It is time now to unite and present a powerful defensive, as well as offensive front to combat this trend.

I sent my letter in and encouraged everyone I know and am in contact wit to do the same. Through this strategy we were able to reverse the same kind of bill in Virginia a couple of weeks ago. This should serve to show anyone that united we can make a difference.
 

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