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[Stevie]

Hi Stevie here,

I have been looking around for a really good metal detector, I'm not sure what go with,
There's so meany out there that say there the best lol but I need to know from anyone that's used a few and could make some good suggestions
I'm trying to find one that's,
Water Proof,
Has the ability to scan not just the top couple of inches of land but goes at least 2 to 5 feet I guess cause sometimes you got go deeper to find the great items too.
Needs to be very accurate and can pick up,
Silver, gold and not just metal if there are any out there any info would be much appreciated.
I just don't want a cheap detector but not a over the top price too, something around $800 to a $1000 is what I'm willing to start out with right now. I am dying to get there and do some hunting!!!!!!

Thanks

Stevie

 

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[GeekNJ]

I'm trying to find one that's,
Water Proof,
Has the ability to scan not just the top couple of inches of land but goes at least 2 to 5 feet I guess cause sometimes you got go deeper to find the great items too.
Needs to be very accurate and can pick up,
Silver, gold and not just metal if there are any out there any info would be much appreciated.
I just don't want a cheap detector but not a over the top price too, something around $800 to a $1000 is what I'm willing to start out with right now. I am dying to get there and do some hunting!!!!!!

Stevie - what detectors that go 2+ feet have you investigated and how much did they cost?

A < 1 ft depth waterproof detector you can swing and a 2+ ft depth detector will likely be 2 very different units. Which are you looking to do first?

David

 

[Terry Soloman]

Hi Stevie here,

I have been looking around for a really good metal detector, I'm not sure what go with,
There's so meany out there that say there the best lol but I need to know from anyone that's used a few and could make some good suggestions
I'm trying to find one that's,
Water Proof,
Has the ability to scan not just the top couple of inches of land but goes at least 2 to 5 feet I guess cause sometimes you got go deeper to find the great items too.
Needs to be very accurate and can pick up,
Silver, gold and not just metal if there are any out there any info would be much appreciated.
I just don't want a cheap detector but not a over the top price too, something around $800 to a $1000 is what I'm willing to start out with right now. I am dying to get there and do some hunting!!!!!!

Thanks

Stevie

Hello from White Plains, NY! If you want to shoot 24" - 40" deep, you are going to need a Pulse Induction, Minelab GPX 5000 ($6,000.00). All metal detectors find gold and silver - some better than others. Most in the $400 - $1,000 price range, average 9" - 12" in depth on dime - half-dollar sized targets (generality). When you say "Waterproof" are we talking Saltwater or Freshwater? There is a HUGE difference in performance and price.

A single-frequency VLF, Garrett AT Pro (about $600), is waterproof to 10' in depth and is GREAT in freshwater, not so much in saltwater. Saltwater is a different animal. The quest for the perfect metal detector to this point has been quixotic. Minelab, has come the closest to building a fully submersible beach machine that can discriminate out iron in wet sand and saltwater. The “Excalibur” uses Broad Band Spectrum, or “BBS” technology, and retails for about $1,500.00.

According to Minelab, their BBS operating system, “simultaneously transmits, receives and analyses a broad band of multiple frequencies to deliver substantial detection depth, high sensitivity and accurate discrimination for a wide range of target types.” The key takeaway here is “multiple frequencies.” Unfortunately, radio waves regardless of their frequency still have to be filtered and balanced in heavily conductive wet-ocean sand and highly mineralized saltwater. That limits the systems depth capabilities.

Single frequency VLF machines (Very Low Frequency), have even more limitations in the harsh saltwater environment. Take for example the Tesoro Lobo Super Traq. This VLF single frequency machine (17.9Khz) is one of the finest and deepest gold nugget finders on the market today. The Lobo Super Traq, is capable of finding BB-sized gold nuggets eight-inches deep in heavily mineralized ground, or a nickel in dry beach sand at 13-inches. Put that same nugget – or even the nickel, seven-inches deep in wet saltwater sand and the Lobo could walk right over it while chattering, or maybe without seeing it at all. Why?

The magnetic iron sands (“Black Sands”), salt, and high concentrations of other minerals in the water and sand conspire to bounce the radio waves away from the target. Conductivity and mineralization act like a shield around the target and create white noise that must be filtered electronically. Think of it as turning on your bright headlights in a heavy fog at night. All that powerful light is diffused and causes a complete white out – you can’t see anything three-feet past the hood of your car! However when you turn on your yellow fog lights, you can see a little further – not as far as you could in clear daylight, but further. That is why all radio wave machines must be “ground balanced” or tuned, to maximize their depth potential, and why BBS filters and multi-frequencies are so effective – yet still limited.

Unlike BBS and VLF metal detectors, which constantly send and receive thousands of low frequency radio waves per second, a Pulse Induction (PI) metal detector fires high-voltage pulses into the sand several hundred times per second. If no metal is present the electric pulse decays at a uniform rate with no anomalies. When metal is present a small “eddy” current flows through it causing the voltage decay time to increase, which creates a measurable anomaly. Unlike VLF radio waves, electronic pulses are impervious to the effects of conductivity and mineralization, and are unaffected by salt or black sands.

PI metal detectors give the user superior depth capabilities in all metal detecting situations and soil conditions. Using the same heavy fog at night metaphor that I referred to earlier, pulse induction is like headlights that cut completely through the fog as if it were not there at all. The trade-off for that added depth and clarity is the inability to discriminate, or block out iron targets that you generally don’t want to waste time and energy digging. While a pulse induction machine detects all metals without discrimination, the minute differences in the signal tone and quality can give a skilled and experienced operator a clue as to what the target may, or may not be.

You need to do some more research! Best of luck!

 

[Frankn]

Hi Stevie here,

I have been looking around for a really good metal detector, I'm not sure what go with,
There's so meany out there that say there the best lol but I need to know from anyone that's used a few and could make some good suggestions
I'm trying to find one that's,
Water Proof,
Has the ability to scan not just the top couple of inches of land but goes at least 2 to 5 feet I guess cause sometimes you got go deeper to find the great items too.
Needs to be very accurate and can pick up,
Silver, gold and not just metal if there are any out there any info would be much appreciated.
I just don't want a cheap detector but not a over the top price too, something around $800 to a $1000 is what I'm willing to start out with right now. I am dying to get there and do some hunting!!!!!!

Thanks

Stevie

It would be nice to get it all in one package at a reasonable price, but take my word for it, it ain't going to happen!
Now lets get down to reality. You have to decide what you are going for first. Tell us what is most important on your find list, then you might get brief, realistic, specific answers. Frank...

 

[Metal Detecting Stuff]

Stevie, as others have said, you will need two detectors to do what you want. No machine will find exclusively gold, Current technology isn't there yet.

Wayne

www.metaldetectingstuff.com