🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Is there an expert on Chinese ceramics? Please help me...

[Hery Pasaribu]

I have a five-clawed dragon & phoenix ceramic jar 72cm high, 33 cm wide.

This jar is very interesting, it feels cold to the touch and all the paintings are under glass except for the black painting on the dragon's head.

The blue dragon fins and phoenix tail, under certain lighting conditions the blue will appear silver, are very unique.

So how did this emperor's jar arrive in Indonesia? My assumption is because there was a rebellion and the emperor lost and left by sea.

Marking this jar is not common, because marking only existed in the Yongle Emperor.

The question is who is the emperor?

I suspect this is the Jianwen emperor.
Ming history states that one of the reasons the Yongle Emperor sponsored the admiral Zheng He on his treasure voyage in the early 15th century was for Zheng He to search for the Jianwen Emperor, who was believed to have survived and fled to the Southeast. Asia.

in Ming History, Zheng He, visited North Sumatra, Indonesia (I found this ceramic place).
Zheng He visited the kingdom of Aru (Haru) on the east coast and the Batak land (Barus) on the West Coast of North Sumatra

From this trip we can see, Zheng He has explored my hometown from East to West.
And the place that Zheng He visited was a busy area at that time and was visited by many traders from China.

From the history and condition of the ceramics, no one believes this is Jianwen.
They reasoned that the color was red and the markings were not common.

These ceramic paintings and colors are clearly early Ming.

During the Hongwu Emperor, imports of cobalt blue from Persia were stopped
They use more red in ceramic applications.

The Jianwen emperor's ceramics were destroyed during the Yongle period. So it is very difficult to find comparisons.

Is it possible this is fake?
From the old ceramics with painting under the glaze, I am very sure this is authentic.

At that time no one would dare to make a 5-clawed dragon without the emperor's permission, the punishment was death.

It is also impossible for counterfeiters to fake red.

“If you want to go broke, make red glaze porcelain” is a popular saying among ceramic makers, because making this type of porcelain is very complicated and expensive.

Please help me, where is the problem with this ceramic?
They just said the markings were invalid.

So how are Hongwu, Yuan and Song dynasty ceramics recognized? Isn't it from the color, material and shape?