No Heart breakers today!!!! Cent IL

[Mr Tuff]

No Heart breakers today!!!! Cent IL.( pottery pics added )

good day of playing on the shore lines...

kirk of some sort..?.. best to all T

 

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[jmaschal]

Hope I can say the same soon. Nice finds and thanks for sharing.

 

[arrow86]

Nice finds .... Both are really good looking points

 

[quito]

Dang!!! ...Way to go!!!

nice ones!

 

[Tony in SC]

Really nice points!!

 

[Cameronstrause]

Wow those are nice!

 

[monsterrack]

Those would make any ones day, great finds.

 

[rock]

If I can find a whole one Im happy, way to go

 

[DigIron2]

Those are very nice. The Kirk is killer. I'd guess a Kirk stemmed?

 

[Mr Tuff]

pottery i found on the same site the other year

 

[sandchip]

Yessss! Nice points. Killer shards o' pottery, too!

 

[scruggs]

Beautiful artifacts you found!

 

[Mark Todd]

Mr Tuff, you most certainly did have a very good day at the shorelines. I'm guessing the shorelines of the Sangamon, the Spoon, or the Illinois River.? Am I close? Or are you hunting the shorelines of a creek?
Regardless I believe you are about 7 or more thousand years off on your larger point that you found.
Although it doesn't resemble any stemmed Kirk cluster points (approx. 8000b.c.) Archaic period, it does appear to have some affinities to the later archaic "Saratoga's and closely related "etlley" points in Illinois. Those two types however regardless of similarity are not what you found either, in my opinion.
I'm of the opinion that both of your points and most or all of the pot sherds are from the same (or nearly the same archeological phases).
Some if not all your pot sherds are examples of Havana ware punctuated pottery, and I think your two points are most likely from the same period. If so, your large piece is either a "Kramer" or a "Robbins" point and your smaller point is a "manker" point or variants of those types. If so your finds are all early to mid woodland period.

 

[welsbury]

You did well,good job.

 

[crj1968]

You did well,good job.

Ditto- really really nice- great finds!

 

[Mr Tuff]

i have 4-5 hot spots in a 20mi zone up n down the IL river.. been hunting points almost 20 yrs now.. found at least ten on my beach behind the home..
just now been starting to learn more abut them.. thanks for ur help Mark. t.

here is a drill i found about ten years ago..

 

[Mark Todd]

i have 4-5 hot spots in a 20mi zone up n down the IL river.. been hunting points almost 20 yrs now.. found at least ten on my beach behind the home..
just now been starting to learn more abut them.. thanks for ur help Mark. t.

here is a drill i found about ten years ago..

That is one sweeet! - drill, especially for a personal find.
"about ten years ago" was a good year, heat treating Burlington chert often bring out the pinkish-red hues as in the case of your drill.
Thanks for showing that beauty!