sage grouse, the new spotted owl

rodoconnor

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Golden_Crab

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Solution: Kill all the sage grouse before march.

Save what owl?
 

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If true, it is interesting that the Feds would consider locking up that much land (15,000 square miles) when, for example, the Carlin Unconformity (richest gold deposit in the U.S.) is only about 200 square miles or a little over 1%. I can't imagine a larger discovery being made even a contiguous oil/gas field.

On a hopefully better note an editorial today told of the squawking going on in current various agencies because of questions being asked of them by Trump officials. Hope that is a good sign of changes to come.
 

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2015 Endangered Species Act Finding

A status review conducted by the Service has found that the greater sage-grouse remains relatively abundant and well-distributed across the species’ 173-million acre range and does not face the risk of extinction now or in the foreseeable future.
 

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rodoconnor

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2015 Endangered Species Act Finding

A status review conducted by the Service has found that the greater sage-grouse remains relatively abundant and well-distributed across the species’ 173-million acre range and does not face the risk of extinction now or in the foreseeable future.
There is an estimated 200,000 to 500,000 of them.A
half a million of them !
 

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Pan fry lightly with olive oil and butter , served on a nice bed of wild rice with a nice tequila shooter as mighty fine eating for sure- :occasion14: John
 

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News story; US considers mining limits in West to save sage grouse | The Kansas City Star

Sagebrush Focal Areas Withdrawal
Environmental Impact Statement
Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, and Wyoming
draft EIS December 2016
https://eplanning.blm.gov/epl-front...70697/94514/114120/SFA_DEIS_Main_Text_508.pdf (450 pages)

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I seem to remember something that just might help to put the brakes on all this Bovine Scientology. The laws state that if there is a road that is shown on an official map (USGS Topo as an example) that is dated from 1976 or before, that the land can not be closed off without having a full Environmental Impact STUDY done before hand. It has become the standard operating procedure for many of the governmental agencies to try to get away with only doing a STATEMENT. By law, this won't fly and any closures made with only a statement are illegal in nature. These agencies attempt to make these changes only using a study for a couple of reasons. 1. Most people do not know or understand the laws. 2. Many people don't give a hoot one way or another what happens in areas they do not use. 3. A statement cost the agencies much less than a full study does. Costs of the studies come out of their budgets which are already tight.

I'd say it's a very safe bet that within the areas proposed for closure there are many roads that were shown on pre-1976 maps.

John.... you forgot to include garlic and onion in that recipe. Garlic, onion and Sage do go well together. ;)
 

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Salt and garlic salt and pepper to taste, dredge in flour or Krusteaz, pan fry that delicious red meat of the sage grouse in canola oil and you will want to go looking for another. (which are easy to locate in their habitat btw)
 

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They tried something similiar down here ...stopped highland grazing in a specific area due to an endangered grass finch that nested in the said area... needless to say numbers didnt increase because the foxes had plenty of cover to hid in and the fire threat increased dramatically. The powers that be have now let sheep grazing resume to cut the fire threat and found the finch numbers are starting to increase...city office pencil pushers have no idea how the rural landscape works.

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It's getting so liberal bad out there it's like kill the people but save the trees.
 

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