XP Deus NO DEPTH!

[smokeythecat]

V put a custom pitch program on my machine and I hated it! No offense V! Went back to the standard program, Deus Fast, and kicked it! The problem with the pitch at the site I used it at was there is most times at least 4 or more metal objects under the loop at all times. Drove me nuts.

 

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[Calabash Digger]

All I use is pitch.... This is a good time for this video...

 

[Jacza]

You can also try this settings, especially the "cold program":

XP Deus hot and cold programs

 

[vferrari]

All I use is pitch.... This is a good time for this video...

Well it only took you and me 2 years with the Deus to figure out the power of pitch, right? Lol.

For someone just starting out with the Deus, especially coming over from a tones machine, I think multi tones is a better starting point from which to transition to pitch. I am used to the intensity drop off with pitch for targets at depth, but a new user might have trouble with picking up those deep targets in pitch. I use pitch, full, and multi tones depending on the site soil, target, and trash conditions.

Also, Colonial was not applying any disc when in pitch mode which negates any advantage to using iron volume and left him vulnerable to TID down averaging.

So even though I am a pitch fan, those were the reasons I was recommending tones vice pitch.

I consider pitch an “acquired taste” for the Deus connoisseur. Lol.

 

[Calabash Digger]

I agree about the tones the video was more about testing your settings. lol PITCH is not for the faint of heart....Remember I learned the machine in full tones.

 

[Relicific]

Well it only took you and me 2 years with the Deus to figure out the power of pitch, right? Lol.

For someone just starting out with the Deus, especially coming over from a tones machine, I think multi tones is a better starting point from which to transition to pitch. I am used to the intensity drop off with pitch for targets at depth, but a new user might have trouble with picking up those deep targets in pitch. I use pitch, full, and multi tones depending on the site soil, target, and trash conditions.

Also, Colonial was not applying any disc when in pitch mode which negates any advantage to using iron volume and left him vulnerable to TID down averaging.

So even though I am a pitch fan, those were the reasons I was recommending tones vice pitch.

I consider pitch an “acquired taste” for the Deus connoisseur. Lol.

You mentioned pitch for very trashy sites,but can you tell me
when do you use multi vs full tones exactly?
I have been using full tones the last 2 years with disc of -2.5.
I would like to expand my repertoire sort to speak.
Thanks

 

[vferrari]

You mentioned pitch for very trashy sites,but can you tell me
when do you use multi vs full tones exactly?
I have been using full tones the last 2 years with disc of -2.5.
I would like to expand my repertoire sort to speak.
Thanks

Sure -

I use full tones basically when I am not too worried about thick iron affecting non-ferrous targets and when the ground is not too mineralized. Basically, whenever I am coin shooting but looking for deep coins or when relic hunting and there is not a lot of iron. I don't like to use full tones if I have to apply any discrimination because I like to hear the iron and iron volume DOES NOT work in full tones. If you disc out iron in full tones, you can no longer hear it at all regardless of the iron volume setting.

I don't apply discrimination to NOT hear iron, I apply discrimination to keep iron from interfering with non-ferrous target id and when I want the horseshoe icon to work right. I always use some level of iron volume when in discrimination mode. So, whenever I apply discrimination I am either using pitch in thick iron as sort of a two-tone mode (i.e., pitch and iron volume) and I am NOT trying to go deep. I am just trying to separate out masked non-ferrous and trying to NOT let the ferrous down average the displayed non-ferrous target ID. Note that in pitch mode you cannot get any idea what the target id is audibly (there is no tone ID in pitch).

If I am using discrimination to filter out less thick iron or want to set up special tone breaks to cherry pick specific targets like silver or mid-conductive relics, then I will go with multi tones (usually 5 if coin shooting or 4 if relic hunting).

Finally, in real challenging mineralized soil I will use gold field, it is the deepest mode available but basically you are sacrificing target ID altogether (it is also a type of pitch mode, but does not use traditional iron discrimination, it uses iron cancelling but even that does not work well in highly mineralized soil) and just going beep dig at that point and digging any repeatable signal.

Hope that helps.

 

[Relicific]

Sure -

I use full tones basically when I am not too worried about thick iron affecting non-ferrous targets and when the ground is not too mineralized. Basically, whenever I am coin shooting but looking for deep coins or when relic hunting and there is not a lot of iron. I don't like to use full tones if I have to apply any discrimination because I like to hear the iron and iron volume DOES NOT work in full tones. If you disc out iron in full tones, you can no longer hear it at all regardless of the iron volume setting.

I don't apply discrimination to NOT hear iron, I apply discrimination to keep iron from interfering with non-ferrous target id and when I want the horseshoe icon to work right. I always use some level of iron volume when in discrimination mode. So, whenever I apply discrimination I am either using pitch in thick iron as sort of a two-tone mode (i.e., pitch and iron volume) and I am NOT trying to go deep. I am just trying to separate out masked non-ferrous and trying to NOT let the ferrous down average the displayed non-ferrous target ID. Note that in pitch mode you cannot get any idea what the target id is audibly (there is no tone ID in pitch).

If I am using discrimination to filter out less thick iron or want to set up special tone breaks to cherry pick specific targets like silver or mid-conductive relics, then I will go with multi tones (usually 5 if coin shooting or 4 if relic hunting).

Finally, in real challenging mineralized soil I will use gold field, it is the deepest mode available but basically you are sacrificing target ID altogether (it is also a type of pitch mode, but does not use traditional iron discrimination, it uses iron cancelling but even that does not work well in highly mineralized soil) and just going beep dig at that point and digging any repeatable signal.

Hope that helps.

Yes,very informative
Thanks