3 Silvers, Wheats and a WWII Swastika belt buckle

[vabuckhunter]

Anyone have any info on the buckle?

 

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[BigWaveDave]

I would like to think that buckle is from the early 1900's.... I don't recall Nazi's running rip-shod through VA...

 

[vabuckhunter]

I have find a few pieces of WW2 stuff around here, I figured it was brought back by the troops?

 

[Digginmichigan]

I bet you its German.

 

[mirage83]

Your buckle looks like a NSDAP belt buckle, the National Socialist German Worker's Party. It existed from 1920 until 1945. Interesting find.

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[wv hilljack]

That was my first thought WWII vet. Congrats on the silvers. I can't seem to find a silver quarter yet I get close 65,66.

 

[BigWaveDave]

Huh...learn something new everyday.... good job by you.

 

[vabuckhunter]

From my research it seems it was a 45th infantry US division buckle, can anyone confirm that?

 

[Pointman]

From my research it seems it was a 45th infantry US division buckle, can anyone confirm that?

I think that was their symbol at one point before it became a Phoenix. I trained with them and their is a museum in Oklahoma city dedicated to the division.

 

[chiloquin]

The Swastika has been used for millennia as a symbol. The Nazi swastika is turned so the bent arms are at an angle and not flat like your buckle. I believe you are right about the 45th infantry US division buckle suggestion. Great finds, congrats.

 

[cjon455]

That's a fantastic silver day! Great hunt

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Very nice finds!

 

[park pirate]

Nice silvers I do like the buckle nice one...

 

[Irregular]

Hey, bud! That friend we share in common made me aware of this find, way cool!

Of course I don't know exactly where you found this, but there were German POW camps in this area, two that I know of within about fifteen miles of where I type.

Creskol found these items last year in close proximity to one of them- a rimmed eagle cartridge belt snap and two period dimes. They were all found fairly close together.




I haven't researched your buckle, but in the future if you're finding 1940's German stuff there may be a good reason behind it.

Congrats on those finds!

 

[coinman123]

I agree, it is not Nazi related. That symbol was commonly used for thousands of years by everyone until WWII. It was used very heavily in early 20th century america. I believe Coca-Cola even used that symbol on advertising during the early 1900's.
Very interesting find

Coinman123,

 

[NOLA_Ken]

I remember those buckles from my collecting days, there was a lot of speculation as to whether they were official party issue or not. With them not being makers marked I always though they were not official party pieces (the Nazis put stamps and marks on literally EVERYTHING big enough to be stamped), and I believe it has been determined they were likely souvenir pieces sold at party rallies. Of course I can't find more than two collectors who agree on an origin for them and thoughts range from a pre-war "good luck" buckle to Finnish military and even early Boy Scouts...

 

[Metal Illness]

My buddy over on another site recently found the exact buckle, US 45th infantry is correct. Before the Nazis hijacked that symbol it was in use all over the place. From Boy Scouts to a depression era Bank Token I found. Cool find, Congrats!

 

[Trooper733]

Not splitting hairs but the Oklahoma 45th Division symbol is actually the thunderbird, instead of a Phoenix. Nice finds! Thanks, Mark