58 caliber Civil War Musket

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I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of rifle this musket is? I know it is a 58 caliber and has #5 in three different areas.
 

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Post this in the what is it forum on here
 
It may be hard to really pinpoint this one down! However, it somewhat appears to be a heavily modified Confederate "2 Band" Enfield Rifle.


Frank
 
Your gun really looks a lot like an 1816 Springfield musket that has been converted to cap lock. Compare the picture of
this 1816 lock area with the lock on your gun. Your gun has, at least at the breech area, an octagon barrel, and the 1816
musket doesn't have that. Other than that, from what I can see in your photos it sure is a close match to the 1816 Springfield.
1816 musket.webp Note the trigger guard, the lock plate, and where the frizzen was sawed off to convert it to cap.
You can still see the remains of the little screw that shows in the pan area where the vent hole was plugged off.
 
It is an Austrian Lorenz, the second most common Civil War import after the British Enfield. They were heavily used on both sides. Originally a .54 caliber, many were rebored to .58 to use the same ammunition as the US Springfield and British Enfield.
 
It is an Austrian Lorenz, the second most common Civil War import after the British Enfield. They were heavily used on both sides. Originally a .54 caliber, many were rebored to .58 to use the same ammunition as the US Springfield and British Enfield.

l.cutler nailed it. Here is a lock on the Lorenz Musket for comparison, and it's a match, octagon barrel and all.
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I found a huge .69 cal. Bullet from one. It was my first CW bullet. These are my favorite muskets. Very nice piece!
 
Wow, that rifle has taken a beating over the years! I like the old repair in the stock.
 
Pardon Me - But sometimes it makes any ID much easier , When to poster indicates where the item was found .
For example another post questioned a piece of CW material
After advising the board , where it was found , ( general area ) We all were able to figure out it was a TEXAN Piece and the area it was found had had several Texas camps Just makes it easier
 
wow!!! great job!!!I diden't think I would ever find out what it was.:hello2:
 

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