A follis of Maximianus

[woody50]

I do know that this coin is a follis of Maximianus looking left, and on the reverse Genius with a star, but I cannot find an exact copy of it. I can find the Genius ok, but not the bust of Maximianus. Can someone find the exact coin for me?

Type Maximianus, 1e regeerperiode ?
Denomination Follis
Mint
Moneyer
Dating 286-305 ?
Mass (gram) 8,88
Material Bronze
Diameter Ø (mm) 29.7
Thickness (mm) 2.4
OBV Description Bust left
OBV Legend IMP MAXIMIANVS AVG
REV Description
REV Legend GENIO POPVLI ROMANI

 

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[CRUSADER]

Cru'Dads answer:

The Maximianus Follis is a RIC Vol VI No 177b page 253Lyons mint fromCirca AD303-5 and is classed Common.

 

[woody50]

Hi Cru, been a long time... Weather has not been good for detecting for some time, how's it by you?

I have looked at many Maximianus Follis and still never found one that looked like mine. The RIC 177b is also different.
Or I don't understand that the 177b only pertains to the volume V1? (and an other volume shows a different coin?)

When I search for RIC 177b I see this, and a different coin.

Antoninianus, 251 AD, Rome mint.
Obverse: VALENS HOSTIL MES QVINTVS N C / Radiate bust of Hostilian.
Reverse: MARTI PROPVGNATORI / Mars advancing, holding spear and shield.
3.37 gm., 21 mm.
RIC #177b; Sear #9556.

 

[CRUSADER]

Hi Cru, been a long time... Weather has not been good for detecting for some time, how's it by you?

I have looked at many Maximianus Follis and still never found one that looked like mine. The RIC 177b is also different.
Or I don't understand that the 177b only pertains to the volume V1? (and an other volume shows a different coin?)

When I search for RIC 177b I see this, and a different coin.

Antoninianus, 251 AD, Rome mint.
Obverse: VALENS HOSTIL MES QVINTVS N C / Radiate bust of Hostilian.
Reverse: MARTI PROPVGNATORI / Mars advancing, holding spear and shield.
3.37 gm., 21 mm.
RIC #177b; Sear #9556.
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The RIC no. is for the volume Cru'Dad quoted (Only). Lots of these coins are only in books & can't be found on the net.

Good to hear from you & the weather been windy but fine to hunt, the whole Winter was a dream, only wore my gloves about 3 times.

 

[woody50]

The RIC no. is for the volume Cru'Dad quoted (Only). Lots of these coins are only in books & can't be found on the net.

Good to hear from you & the weather been windy but fine to hunt, the whole Winter was a dream, only wore my gloves about 3 times.

Great that you (and your Dad) got a lot of searching in this winter. That is also what I was thinking, not everything on the web. That would be just too much I guess.
Would it be possible to scan in the 177b for me? If you have the time. Pity that I just don't have many books.

 

[CRUSADER]

Great that you (and your Dad) got a lot of searching in this winter. That is also what I was thinking, not everything on the web. That would be just too much I guess.
Would it be possible to scan in the 177b for me? If you have the time. Pity that I just don't have many books.

These volumes I helped buy for Dad & the set is over £1000. Hopefully he reads this & emails me the scan to forward to you.

 

[woody50]

Thanks Cru, now I know why I don't buy many books! The scan would look good in the coins portfolio!

 

[CRUSADER]

Thereare very few photos in RIC and this is the page with the info as best I canscan due to book thickness!

 

[Mackaydon]

Closest I can get:
Rare Maximianus AE Follis Lugdunum Mint F843 | eBay

Don....

 

[CRUSADER]

Closest I can get:
Rare Maximianus AE Follis Lugdunum Mint F843 | eBay

Don....

Pretty close, only the star in field is wrong, ie 'N' in field

 

[woody50]

Thereare very few photos in RIC and this is the page with the info as best I canscan due to book thickness!

Well thanks very much for your help Cru! Wonderful. I now have much more information and will have to look and study it.
Yes I know the problem about creating scans with large bound books. I have the same. In the states I have seen people scan with a hand held scanner at the libraries, very easy and it scans into a portable hard disk. Don't know much at all about them but I have received one or two scans made with the hand scanner and they are pretty good.

Pity there are not so many photos, and that in a large book. Sometimes the photo's are at the back of the book or in an other volume.
Again thanks for your helping hand, I appreciate you taking time to do this.

Would like to search again with you but would have to get things together, most of the time we come to England with only one auto, so it's difficult. And of course it's expensive to rent a room also. I hear from Daryl every once in a while, but it's still the same with him, pity, we did search together and had a good time.

 

[woody50]

Thanks very much for your searching, surprised that someone could find it, so you did real good! I looked at a few hundred not finding even one from the man and you got it! I found few that matched the reverse though. Great, thanks.

So north of San Diego? I was born north of San Diego, but somewhat further north and a little east, Palmdale born lived in Lancaster. You sure have searched for many years, wow 40. That is 8 years more than I have searched. And retired...sorta, well me too, now 20 years ago! Time flies and I have had 20 years free to search. You are very active here that is great also. Take care !

Earl

 

[Mackaydon]

As Cru pointed out, the only difference between the OP coin and the one I referenced is the control mark (Star versus Letter "N"). These control marks (stars, dots, letters,etc) provided specific information to the mint officials as to exactly when, where and perhaps by whom the coin was struck; otherwise the coin is the same. I believe one would need one of the RIC volumes to ascertain the meaning of these different control marks--and those references are 'above my pay grade'.
Don.....

 

[woody50]

As Cru pointed out, the only difference between the OP coin and the one I referenced is the control mark (Star versus Letter "N"). These control marks (stars, dots, letters,etc) provided specific information to the mint officials as to exactly when, where and perhaps by whom the coin was struck; otherwise the coin is the same. I believe one would need one of the RIC volumes to ascertain the meaning of these different control marks--and those references are 'above my pay grade'.
Don.....

Thanks Don, yes the control marks are just like nowadays, the mint marks I would image. And their meaning should be available someplace on the net I would image, just have to find them. Thanks for telling about the marks.