Anybody Use The Fisher CoinStrike?

[Michigan Badger]

I just made a deal for a used Fisher CoinStrike.

Anybody here ever use one?

Any thoughts?

Badger

 

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[Willy]

Yup.. a bit of a stinker. It, along with the Goldstrike (had one of those too), has one of the worst user interfaces that it's been my misfortune to experience. It is definitely not an intuitive detector to use/setup and the disc. system was designed by a retard. Some people like them.. I didn't. Did side-by-side tests between it and my Compass X-100,detected objects before digging them up, and the X-100 spanked the Coinstrike. Supposed to have great iron rejection.. X-100 beat it. One other thing the G.strike and C.strike share are the terrible touch-pads. If you don't press them juuuust right, nothing happens. Forget about wearing gloves if trying to adjust the settings. Did I mention that it stank? Yeah, I think I did.. but in case I didn't.. it stunk (was stanky, stinkaroo, WOW.. who cut one?). Of course, this is my personal take on the detector; I only used it for a few months. Maybe after a year or so I would have had another opinion.. NOT. ..Willy.

(stink,stink,stink)

 

[kybowhunter]

It was hard to use, didn't like the padded buttons. But it was deep for me and I found plenty with it

 

[Keppy]

Badger...I see you sent for a ...Garrett Infinium..I posted a while back that if i buy another ..Garrett.. it would be the ..Infinium .. Garrett sent me the ..DVD..& Instruction manual..for the Infinium.. Free so i could a better idea on the detector i have been watching the DVD and reading the Manual......... So now i will wait for your report.............................==Jim==

 

[Michigan Badger]

Badger...I see you sent for a ...Garrett Infinium..I posted a while back that if i buy another ..Garrett.. it would be the ..Infinium .. Garrett sent me the ..DVD..& Instruction manual..for the Infinium.. Free so i could a better idea on the detector i have been watching the DVD and reading the Manual......... So now i will wait for your report.............................==Jim==

Seems like you and me are on about the same course here. I'll test it outdoors in the ground during one of our warmer spells. I plan to snow blow out a spot for a test area.

I still think the potted soil thing is reasonably accurate but just in case the next time it's to the yard.

I've wondered about this detector since it was first introduced. Some people here who tend to tell it as it is have told me it's super deep. Much deeper than any VLF detector. If this proves true in our soil then I've got a use for it.

My main machine will most likely be the Sovereign GT but the Infinium will have a job to do.

If you promise not to spread this around I'll give you a hint. When I hunt sites known to have had a lot of people action 100 years ago, I look for those hot spots. Whenever I find a couple good finds there's usually more in the general area. Have you ever noticed this...you make a good find and a year or two later you dig another good find very near where you dug the one the year before? I've returned to the exact small area time and time again only to dig more old coins and antique jewelry.

Well what I plan to do this year is use a good VLF to work a new site until I isolate the hot spots. Then I'll return and really cover those small spots again with the Infinium fixed with a concentric coil. So I plan to use the Infinium just in small areas where I dig two or more very old coins while using the GT.

In other words, the Infinium will be my deep dog.

I have a theory that our VLF's (be they old or new) are missing loads of keeper finds. The Infinium is going to help me ferret out those goodies.

And too, the Infinium will help me locate those very deep relics that were buried in the 19th century privy or trash pit holes.

How do you plan to use an infinium?

Badger

 

[Willy]

I had the Infinium (didn't stink) with all the optional coils and didn't bother with the Monos. My favorite freshwater beach (highly mineralized w. fertilizer salts added to the mix) has been hunted with almost every VLF known to man. I hit it with the Infinium and it seemed to be almost carpeted with silver. I've run across people who should know better claiming that BBS/FBS detectors are 'secret tech pulse' and operate on the 'time domain'.. well they outta get a REAL pi in their little ignorant hands and see what depth really means. I'd gone over the same area with both a Sov. and Excal (WOT, 10", 8" loops) and they didn't come anywhere near deep enough to find the silver the Infinium was pulling up. I had to be careful with my holes too 'cause those pits were getting huge.. lucky it was a beach. Anyway, if you're willing to put in the time (and attendant frustration) the Infinium will do you good. ..Willy. BTW.. my most used loops were the 5x10" and 10x14"

 

[Michigan Badger]

Yup.. a bit of a stinker. It, along with the Goldstrike (had one of those too), has one of the worst user interfaces that it's been my misfortune to experience. It is definitely not an intuitive detector to use/setup and the disc. system was designed by a retard. Some people like them.. I didn't. Did side-by-side tests between it and my Compass X-100,detected objects before digging them up, and the X-100 spanked the Coinstrike. Supposed to have great iron rejection.. X-100 beat it. One other thing the G.strike and C.strike share are the terrible touch-pads. If you don't press them juuuust right, nothing happens. Forget about wearing gloves if trying to adjust the settings. Did I mention that it stank? Yeah, I think I did.. but in case I didn't.. it stunk (was stanky, stinkaroo, WOW.. who cut one?). Of course, this is my personal take on the detector; I only used it for a few months. Maybe after a year or so I would have had another opinion.. NOT. ..Willy.

(stink,stink,stink)

Then are we to assume you don't care for the Coinstrike, Willy?

I really liked the outhouse photo. Plan to enlarge it and hang it in the office. A picture truly is worth a thousand words.

I've never been much of a fan for the DD coils. I wish they made a mono for the GT. I see the concentrics as much deeper and a lot easier to isolate targets with. To me the DD's are mostly beach and ballfield coils.

I try both and see what happens at the high trash sites.

Most people I know who used the Infinium at trashy sites didn't like it. I know very few non divers who keep their machines very long. One fellow who has praised the Infinium and written a lot about it has tried secretly to sell me his machine.

Oh well, here goes me. I just have to try it.

One more thing, I hate to say this Willy but I think the Fisher name today is in a world of hurt.

Badger

 

[Willy]

Yup, got a real hate on for the Coinstrike. What really gets me is the near contempt that the people who developed and OK'ed the design seem to have had for the end user. No wonder Fisher went down the tubes. Regarding the Infinium, it's NOT a 'coin' machine. It's very busy and the dual tones will hurt the brain aftera while. Both the disc. and ID are very limited as compared to your run of the mill VLF. Within those limits, though, it does excel. I shoulda kept mine, but needed the money and it turned out not to work the greatest where I was prospecting. That's not a complaint specific to the Infinium .. a top of the line Minelab GPX 4000 didn't do any better; worse in fact.
Had to do a bit of searching to find that jpeg, was looking for a 'Newfie 2 holer' and came up with that. figured that, given how Fisher management screwed things up for everybody, that it was appropriate. As for the current state of Fisher.. let's just say that i'm not impressed. The F4 looks to be 'OK' but that's about all, and the F75 is wayyy overpriced. I notice that the F75 isn't on Chris Herschbach's AMDS prospecting detector list... wonder why. Hmmm. Both the Infinium and XTerra70 are. ...Willy.

 

[Michigan Badger]

Yup, got a real hate on for the Coinstrike. What really gets me is the near contempt that the people who developed and OK'ed the design seem to have had for the end user. No wonder Fisher went down the tubes. Regarding the Infinium, it's NOT a 'coin' machine. It's very busy and the dual tones will hurt the brain aftera while. Both the disc. and ID are very limited as compared to your run of the mill VLF. Within those limits, though, it does excel. I shoulda kept mine, but needed the money and it turned out not to work the greatest where I was prospecting. That's not a complaint specific to the Infinium .. a top of the line Minelab GPX 4000 didn't do any better; worse in fact.
Had to do a bit of searching to find that jpeg, was looking for a 'Newfie 2 holer' and came up with that. figured that, given how Fisher management screwed things up for everybody, that it was appropriate. As for the current state of Fisher.. let's just say that i'm not impressed. The F4 looks to be 'OK' but that's about all, and the F75 is wayyy overpriced. I notice that the F75 isn't on Chris Herschbach's AMDS prospecting detector list... wonder why. Hmmm. Both the Infinium and XTerra70 are. ...Willy.

Want my opinion on the Fisher F series, Willy?

Well here it is anyway...

It's not going to pull Fisher out of the hole. It will be a "hit" for a time but the flame will die out too soon.

It's an okay design but doesn't compare in quality with the similar priced units by competitors.

My minus 2 cents.

True price scale:

F-2 $149.99

F-4 $249.99

F-75 $499.99

Badger

 

[Willy]

I think that they could get the F75 up to $600, but that's about it. That's getting into ground tracking territory and a lot of decent detectors at around that price range. ..Willy.

 

[Michigan Badger]

I think that they could get the F75 up to $600, but that's about it. That's getting into ground tracking territory and a lot of decent detectors at around that price range. ..Willy.

How about...

F-2 $149

F-4 $299

F-75 $599

 

[Keppy]

....BADGER......WILLY....===== Badger my plans was the same as yours with the ...Infinium... to hunt the good spots i know again with a deep detector.It seem's like a waste of time to keep going back over them with a..VLF detector...And i will go out west and try my luck in finding some Gold Nuggets.============= Willy with your input on the ...Infinium.. you made my mind up to go ahead and put my order in for one............................==Jim==

 

[Michigan Badger]

Ya, Willy wrote some good stuff there. I've read that sort of thing elsewhere since the Infinium came out.

The thing I like about this API is depth. Depth is what's lacking from VLF machines. We can talk all we want and exaggerate but we all know we're really hunting that 0-6 inch range (at best).

To make a chart of a VLF's detection pattern it would look something like the lay of your average mountain range. One second 6 inches the next 3 inches the next 4 inches the next 1 inch the next..

Outside my bedroom window is a tree. Under that tree I've been digging coins and relics since 1993. Last summer was my best year yet hunting under that tree. I found an antique silver ring at about 3 inches and 4 or 5 indian cents (deepest was maybe 5 inches deep - most in the 3 inch range). How did these coins get there? There was a school house across the street from the 1880's till they tore it down in the 60's.

Since 1993 I've covered every single inch of that small area with many of the most powerful VLF detectors made. So, how is it I'm still finding these old V nickels, Buffs, Merc dimes, etc.? Easy...our VLF detectors don't cover a consistant depth like we think they do. They all miss lots of targets.

Each year after the ground thaws the soil changes enough for the VLF to finally see another coin.

I learned all this when back a few years ago we had some landscaping done. I had covered the site completely many many times with Minelabs, Tesoros, etc.. When the workers were removing the top 4 inches of topsoil they uncovered Indian cents, padlocks, and all sorts of cool stuff. I simply screened and detected the dirt they dug up. I couldn't believe it.

The VLF is better than simply digging at random but sometimes not much better.

I'm hoping the PI will do as I've been told and consistently search down to at least 6 inches with a solid saturating signal (not millions of holes like a VLF). If it can do this I'll kill the loot right in my own yard. Then I'll take it to some really good sites.

Where our house now stands was most likely a playground for the school.

 

[Willy]

Well, that beach I talk about is something along the lines of your playground. I've hunted it for years, as have hundreds of others. Still, there's silver to be had. No word of a lie, 5-6" down and even silver will read as iron. That's about the depth a VLF would get there anyway. The Infinium gave me at least double the depth of a VLF, maybe even triple in some areas. As for prospecting, a buddy of mine was using one up in Alaska's Brooks range and found a heap of gold with it. Steve Herschbach was also using one (successfully) in AK. Might not get the overall depth of a GPX 4000.. but check out the price. ..Willy.

 

[Michigan Badger]

Well, that beach I talk about is something along the lines of your playground. I've hunted it for years, as have hundreds of others. Still, there's silver to be had. No word of a lie, 5-6" down and even silver will read as iron. That's about the depth a VLF would get there anyway. The Infinium gave me at least double the depth of a VLF, maybe even triple in some areas. As for prospecting, a buddy of mine was using one up in Alaska's Brooks range and found a heap of gold with it. Steve Herschbach was also using one (successfully) in AK. Might not get the overall depth of a GPX 4000.. but check out the price. ..Willy.

I have high hopes. The sites I hunt are mostly in bad condition so I can dig all I want as long as I fill the holes. Sometimes I take a wheelbarrow with a screener on top to sift the dirt as I dig. This saves on my bad knee. I also found that the wheelborrow makes people think you've been hired to do what your doing.

The more I think about it the more I think me and the Infinium will get along just fine.

 

[TomNWMI]

Hey Badger

You should keep that "No Good" Coinstrike long enough to actually use it. Its a great machine for Northern Michigan conditions.

Have you had the GT out hunting yet? Reason I ask, is a buddy of mine used to use the Sovereigns up here and is much happier with the Coinstrike. Forget air tests ya gotta get out and actually use it to see what it can really do. In the mild ground around here the Multi-Freqs don't have anything over a decent single freq mchine except for the stupid slow sweep requirement.

HH Tom

 

[Michigan Badger]

Re: Hey Badger

You should keep that "No Good" Coinstrike long enough to actually use it. Its a great machine for Northern Michigan conditions.

Have you had the GT out hunting yet? Reason I ask, is a buddy of mine used to use the Sovereigns up here and is much happier with the Coinstrike. Forget air tests ya gotta get out and actually use it to see what it can really do. In the mild ground around here the Multi-Freqs don't have anything over a decent single freq mchine except for the stupid slow sweep requirement.

HH Tom

Thanks for the leg up on the Coinstrike.

I plan to keep it and learn it. Right now it's still in the box and I haven't even fired it up yet.

I did take a peek at it and it looks new.

I traded my F-2 for it even up.

Badger

 

[sandrailer]

MichBadger
Hello,I also have the C$, if you got any ?`s. Feel free to PM me I will help ya out all i can.
For the record ,I also wanted to wrap mine around a tree ,But in time i think you will like it as much as i LOVE mine.

 

[JOE(USA)]

Hey you guys great post! you got me foaming at the mouth to get out there and detect. I haven't hunted in two weeks due to the weather. After Xmas I think I'll go to the ocean on our Connecticut coast,it will be unfrozen so I can hunt.
Great work your doing on the detector tests, I'm glued to the computer waiting for your next posts! Badger, go for it man! Like Sandman always says "Time is the only thing you never get back. Why waste it swinging a detector that is not up to the task." Joe

 

[TomNWMI]

Man O man..

You should keep that "No Good" Coinstrike long enough to actually use it. Its a great machine for Northern Michigan conditions.

Have you had the GT out hunting yet? Reason I ask, is a buddy of mine used to use the Sovereigns up here and is much happier with the Coinstrike. Forget air tests ya gotta get out and actually use it to see what it can really do. In the mild ground around here the Multi-Freqs don't have anything over a decent single freq mchine except for the stupid slow sweep requirement.

HH Tom

Thanks for the leg up on the Coinstrike.

I plan to keep it and learn it. Right now it's still in the box and I haven't even fired it up yet.

I did take a peek at it and it looks new.

I traded my F-2 for it even up.

Badger

I traded my F-2 for it even up.


Sweet!!