Artillery Shell Marks

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Until a member pipes in - ya really need better pictures. I noticed a bunch of markings but can't make out any but a few numbers covered by light, etc. Now, from what I could make out the KR probably stands for Krupp from Germany. Take you time and upload better pictures...
 

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Sorry.. the markings are so faded the light is the only way I can get an image. Uploading more images
 

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Better pics will help, but more importantly if you can measure the original diameter of the shell that will help a lot. Being able to narrow it down to a specific caliber of gun goes a long way. Measurements in inches and in millimeters are both needed since it could be American or European.
 

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Seriously nobody has a response. Despite the photography critics in this forum the " Kr. " and scripted " R " proof are clearly visable. Guess you people spend too much time talking about rocks, pieces of wood and.. well.. junk. Just remembered why I stopped coming here

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CSA2K, as you probably know, my area of professional expertise is civil war and earlier artillery projectiles. The shell in your photos is definitely from several (two to five) decades after the end of the civil war. So, I was waiting for somebody who knows more about 1880s-and-later artillery projectiles to speak up. No info resulted. So I'll give it a shot, based on my admittedly limited knowledge of post-1880s artillery projectiles. I hope it will be of at least some usefulness to you.

I've never seen markings like those on American artillery projectiles. The "script R" makes me think it's European.

I've also never seen an artillery shell whose fuze is located entirely inside the shell (not exposed at the nose, or side, or base). Therefore, I suspect having that location for the fuze was a brief trial, which proved unsatisfactory, so its use was not continued.

I have seen a few varieties of artillery shells which have a large iron screw-in iron/steel disc in their flat base... as yours does. That too was a sort of "experimental" form, which was seldom continued. The only ones I've SEEN that have a screw-in iron/steel base are from the 1800s. But of course, here I must say I do not believe I've seen everything there is to see. It's possible that it is from a later time. But see my additional time-dating reasoning in the next paragraph.

Its solid (not hollow) "nose" combined with a large powder-cavity in the cylindrical (non-pointed) section of its body tells me it is a high-explosive Armor-Piercing shell. A decade or so into the 1900s, experimentation by various nations' Ordnance Departments discovered that a sharp-pointed nose was actually NOT good at piercing thick armor. So, the sharp-pointed nose on your Armor-Piercing shell, and its unusual fuze location, and screw-in base indicate it is from sometime in the late 1800s to 1910s. It could be from the Spanish-American War era to as late as World War One. If I had to narrow that estimate, I'd go with late-1800s, because of the extremely unusual entirely-internal fuze location.
 

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Seriously nobody has a response. Despite the photography critics in this forum the " Kr. " and scripted " R " proof are clearly visable. Guess you people spend too much time talking about rocks, pieces of wood and.. well.. junk. Just remembered why I stopped coming here

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Like I said, to positively ID the shell, I need to know what the dimensions are. Knowing the caliber of gun it was made for will let me track down which gun, and which specific type it is. About all I can say right now is that it looks like an internally fused armor piercing shell, but anything more than that is just speculation. If you can get me the diameter in inches and mm I may be able to help.
 

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can we have the back story of this shell, how did you obtain it - the history?
is it a display item as it look professionally sliced
Brady
 

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Well, since there has been no update here, I thought I'd go ahead and post what I've been thinking this shell is....

I think, and I could be wrong I'll need measurements to confirm, that this is a WW1 German 8.8cm armor piercing shell for the SK L/45 naval gun.

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Germany 8.8 cm/45 (3.46") SK L/45 - NavWeaps
 

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Sorry you were miffed. We'll see you get a full refund.

Perhaps if you were to write down the stampings? I cannot make out much except Kr. and 6059

We don't know the weight, diameter, length, where it was found (even the country) and under what circumstances.

What do you expect? NOLA-Ken did a heck of a job hitting the mark (probably).
 

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