Aussie treasure storys?

[finders.keepers]

I was reading some of the treasure story's here and started wondering if we had any story's of our own. I could only think of one, Pirate Benito Benita who supposedly buried Spanish treasure in Queenscliff Vic in 1798. The details are sketchy and I really have not researched this but it gets you thinking I mean imagine picking up Spanish coins in Queenscliff, could this story be true?

Cheers all.

 

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[grantler]

Hi Mate,
Some good books to read:
Lost Treasure in Australia and New Zealand, by Kenneth W.Byron (1964) (including the Loot of Lima )
Australias Hidden Treasures , by Jeff Tughill (1988)
Some good reading you´ll find in the Australian "Gold Gem and Treasure Magazine"
then in the Collectors Edition (Treasures Wrecks &Bushrangers 1995) from the same Mag.
and in the old Coins Monthly Magazines UK (June 1934, Jan.1947 ,Oct.1956, )
need more ?
regards from germany
grantler

 

[finders.keepers]

Cheers mate.
I will check em out.
Thanks for the info grantler

 

[grantler]

Hi,
I must apologize, it´s not the Coins Monthly Magazine (althought thy have some THing storys as well )
but "" The Wide World Magazine "" the Nr`s.and date are correct.
Got mixed up .
regards
grantler

 

[finders.keepers]

All good mate
Thanks again

 

[Tommi]

My 2cents, I purchase a book just recently about the Portuguese getting here a couple hundred years before Pirate Cook, I've lost my book haha (I'm in between homes) so I forget the name.... something along the lines of Capricorn ...


UPDATE - I found my book today - its called: Beyond Capricorn

 

[Grimnar]

Tommi ,

May i ask why you refer to Captain Cook as Pirate Cook? I'm just amuse and i was wondering were you got that from?

Regards
Grim

 

[Tommi]

.... if you read the book you'll understand

I don't actually think of him as a Pirate but more of a fraud, our coasts were mapped a long time before Cook.

I do however take my hat off to all of the Australia's pioneers that were able to stick it out, we have a fascinating history that maybe older then we think

 

[Grimnar]

Tommi,
That's a given that Cook didn't first map the Australian Coast, but he did add in a little detail to the existing maps of the time and earlier.

Personally I believe the Phoenician's and Egyptians discovered Australia, but that's a whole another story.

 

[Tommi]

I have an open mind, so if someone makes a strong argument backed up with evidence its plausible

 

[Grimnar]

Tommi,
Their is proof out there, but its in conjecture, what someone calls an ancient idol, another would call an oddly shaped bolder.
A lot of items have been found that challenges the written history and challenges the brain. And well to be honest a lot of those items have mysteriously gone missing or have became lost.
Its late so i wont go into much detail, but a lot of things don't add up especially with this young country of ours.

Grim

 

[Tommi]

Especially the Egyptian hieroglyphics found in a NSW national park and the ones found in Townsville being disposed by the air force into the sea, but to stop access to you and me the hieroglyphic tablets were dropped into a military controlled zone.

Or the strange terraces found on the side of a hill in Queensland which were completely ignored by so called academics and the government putting a bulldoser through the site and constructing a road over it?

Or the cannons found off the coast of....sorry for the rant.... I'll stop now.

 

[Grimnar]

Your Exactly right, but i will say that some of the artifacts found have actually seen the light of day.

A stone Idol of Phoenician origin was unearthed in southern Queensland and is now on display at the Gympie Tourist Information Center as well as other ancient archaeological anomalies that are on display at Rex Gilroy's Katoomba museum.

It is really quite fascinating when you actually dig a little from the surface.

Ohh from what i know the Egyptian Hieroglyphs in the blue mountains still exist, but are quite hard to find, but i presume it wont take long before some moronic teenages decide to joyride up their and deface them.

Please tell me what you know about the finds that have been made.

Grim

 

[tinpan]

Interesting stories but nothing more than modern man made tourist attractions.If you infact want to find some real lost treasure Heres a few from Victoria that have never been found and are infact true.

Mid 1850's a ship called the Madigasguar sailed threw the Port Philip Heads and was never seen again and carried 2 tonns of gold from the gold rush.

In 1854 police gold escort was robbed between Heathcote and Kilmore. Some 300 pounds of gold was hided in the area and the outlaws never lived long enough to to recover their treasure.

1904 a number of large gold bars where stolen during night after the watchman did his check of the strong room of the Bendigo Stock exchange.

In 1886 a group of chinese stole a large amount from a gold mine in Huntly.The Policeman who went to the largest chinese camp to make enquirries was never seen again either Constable Thomas Ryan


enjoy Tinpan

 

[hetty]

Re the Bonito treasure. It is real and lies under a gravelled extended width of the roadway which was widened to cater for the school busses picking up students from the now relocated Queenscliffe high school.
THey deposited the treasure by just digging into the cliff side and And tunnelling to the left and right. The cache is about 3 good paces long with 1 pace of gold at each end with silver in the centre. THe cache is a few paces from a sign claiming that the Bonito treasure was supposed to be buried nearby. The bonito treasure couldnt be buried in an existing nearby cave as the cave is full of Jesuit gold and well hidden. I am 25 years an experienced dowser. Re the The mahogany ship at Waarnambool, it lies a hundred yards from the abbatoirs but is just a hulk commencing 2 foot under the surface with one foot thick ribs and about 17 foot in width and about 57 feet in width.. The Liberals offered the sum of $50,000 for its discovery but by the time I learnt suffient re dowsing the labour Gov. cancelled the prize money.

There is much silver buried in a nearby paddock proffessionally buried , indicating it was most certainly Spanish Jesuit which was probably marooned in a now non existant bay by a huge storm which closed up the entrance located near a huge sand excavation shed to the left about a kilometer to the east. There are existing young caves and much limestone within a few yards of the wreck as added proof. Probably 17th century or thereabouts. I have a suitcase full of knockbacks from all government departments saying "good luck in your endevours but you cannot dig and we wont look at your evidence which is a lot. Regards to all Aussies Frustrated Dowser 501

 

[Grimnar]

Re the The mahogany ship at Warrnambool, IT lies a hundred yards from the abattoirs but is just a hulk commencing 2 foot under the surface with one foot thick ribs and about 17 foot in width and about 57 feet in width.. The Liberals offered the sum of $50,000 for its discovery but by the time I learnt sufficient re dowsing the labour Gov. cancelled the prize money.

No offence intended mate, but if you know where the Mahogany ship is why don't you find it? I'm sure if you did, with proof you wouldn't have any problem getting a bounty for the find!

And on your claim that the Jesuit Order buried treasure in Victoria, I find it very hard to believe that Jesuit led Spanish treasure ships would come this far south, whether coming from Central America or the Phillipeans. Why would they choose to take such a large risk, through sickness, inclement weather or pirates ,in taking such a long trip back to Spain?

How did you 'discover' this information about the Jesuit's burrying treasure in Victoria, Are their documents in Australia or Spain that shed any light onto this? Have you found any proof to support your claims? I would really love to know.

Cheers

 

[tinpan]

Your Exactly right, but i will say that some of the artifacts found have actually seen the light of day.

A stone Idol of Phoenician origin was unearthed in southern Queensland and is now on display at the Gympie Tourist Information Center as well as other ancient archaeological anomalies that are on display at Rex Gilroy's Katoomba museum.

It is really quite fascinating when you actually dig a little from the surface.

Ohh from what i know the Egyptian Hieroglyphs in the blue mountains still exist, but are quite hard to find, but i presume it wont take long before some moronic teenages decide to joyride up their and deface them.

Please tell me what you know about the finds that have been made.

Grim

None of the Egyption heiroglyphs found in the Blue mountains are correct .All are in the wrong order to be correct and the site has been dug to 5 metres and nothing what so ever was ever found.

tinpan

 

[Grimnar]

Your quite correct Tinpan, but didn't it make for a very interesting story when first 'discovered'?

 

[Mad_Dan]

There is also the story about Cpt Moonlight's treasure.. Any body know that one..?

 

[aussie 1]

Re Aussie proof of Jesuits here in Aussie, I have a shed full of artifacts from the 17th to the 19 cent. of proof ofJesuit occupation of Port phillip Bay victoria. No bodies interested. The idea of someone getting here before Cpt Cook is inconcievable.
Would also cost too much to change the history books.
Our coastliones are lousy with buried treasure if you spend a few years studying USA jesuit artifacts, you will find identical petroglyphs and pointer trees and sundry markers here as well.
From Darwin to to Sydney and on to Melbourne then Warnambool,

Aussie 1