Cellar hole hunters using the 600?

[RelicMedic]

Just wondering if there are any cellar hole hunters out there that are using the equinox 600 and what their settings are. I just got my 600 and I currently have it set up on field 2, iron bias 1, recovery speed 2. Would you agree that these are the optimal settings for these conditions, or have you found something else works better? Thanks guys.

 

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[vferrari]

Those sound like pretty good settings. Keep the iron bias low to keep from missing iron-masked non-ferrous targets and crank reactivity up to 3 if the iron is really thick.

Another thing you can try is lowering sensitivity in thick iron. A little counterintuitive, as you will lose depth, but it can help keep iron from overwhelming the coil, and some shallower keepers might pop out of the muck. Use that horseshoe (all metal) button to occasionslly hear the iron and to help better ID falsing iron. If you have the 6" coil, that is great for tight spots, too. HTH.

 

[RelicMedic]

It's always a constant null at the sites I hunt. I'll drop the iron bias to 0 and turn the speed up to 3. Still 4' of snow here so no cellar holes for a couple months yet.

 

[Wild Colonial Boy]

just wondering why the lower (3,4) end of recovery speed in thick iron?

I always run 4-6 but now i fear i have been too extreme in trying separate out good from iron , all advice welcome

 

[vferrari]

just wondering why the lower (3,4) end of recovery speed in thick iron?

I always run 4-6 but now i fear i have been too extreme in trying separate out good from iron , all advice welcome

You might be confused by the fact the OP is using a 600, which only has recovery speed settings 1, 2, and 3 (max) vice 1 to 8 for the 800.

 

[RelicMedic]

just wondering why the lower (3,4) end of recovery speed in thick iron?

I always run 4-6 but now i fear i have been too extreme in trying separate out good from iron , all advice welcome

Recovery speed of 3 on the 600 is equal to 6 on the 800

 

[RelicMedic]

Those sound like pretty good settings. Keep the iron bias low to keep from missing iron-masked non-ferrous targets and crank reactivity up to 3 if the iron is really thick.

Another thing you can try is lowering sensitivity in thick iron. A little counterintuitive, as you will lose depth, but it can help keep iron from overwhelming the coil, and some shallower keepers might pop out of the muck. Use that horseshoe (all metal) button to occasionslly hear the iron and to help better ID falsing iron. If you have the 6" coil, that is great for tight spots, too. HTH.

Perfect! Thank you. I ran the etrac sensitivity at 18 on these sites, so I'll keep the Nox sensitivity between 18 and 20

 

[RelicMedic]

Oh one more question: what frequency? 5, 10, 15 or multi?

 

[saanich2018]

OK, I have to ask.

What do you mean by "cellar hole"?

 

[vferrari]

Oh one more question: what frequency? 5, 10, 15 or multi?

Multi. If you go single frequency then you obviate the advantage of multi IQ which is what gives each mode its unique "personality". Multi IQ helps with ground compensation and target signal processing. Iron Bias is disabled in single, too. If you do want to go single, then the frequency choice is based on your target of interest. Also, in the case of the 600, in single frequency, you lose access to the 20 and 40 khz frequency components that you have in Multi that are key to exciting mid-conductive targets like brass, lead, (relics), small jewelry/targets and gold. So if that is your focus, 15 khz is the best alternative you have on the 600 for mid conductors. If you are going after silver or deeper/larger targets 5 khz. 10 khz if you want to split the difference. Note the lower frequencies will be more susceptible to EMI.

 

[vferrari]

OK, I have to ask.

What do you mean by "cellar hole"?

It is what is left behind in the woods when an old dwelling is razed, demolished, or decays away.

 

[saanich2018]

That makes sense. Thank you.

Still learning terminology!

 

[Wild Colonial Boy]

You might be confused by the fact the OP is using a 600, which only has recovery speed settings 1, 2, and 3 (max) vice 1 to 8 for the 800.

yes i missed the 600 part of his intro sorry
thanks

 

[RelicMedic]

Multi. If you go single frequency then you obviate the advantage of multi IQ which is what gives each mode its unique "personality". Multi IQ helps with ground compensation and target signal processing. Iron Bias is disabled in single, too. If you do want to go single, then the frequency choice is based on your target of interest. Also, in the case of the 600, in single frequency, you lose access to the 20 and 40 khz frequency components that you have in Multi that are key to exciting mid-conductive targets like brass, lead, (relics), small jewelry/targets and gold. So if that is your focus, 15 khz is the best alternative you have on the 600 for mid conductors. If you are going after silver or deeper/larger targets 5 khz. 10 khz if you want to split the difference. Note the lower frequencies will be more susceptible to EMI.

That is the best explanation of multi frequency/modes/iron bias that I have seen so far! Thank you! thank you thank you!

 

[Schuder3]

would 5 khz be what you would want if you were looking for cannon balls?

 

[RelicMedic]

would 5 khz be what you would want if you were looking for cannon balls?

From what I understand, yes. Personally, I'm after old coppers, Spanish silver, colonial gold, Rev War relics etc. My sites don't produce cannonballs because they are homesites, but anything is possible!

 

[Schuder3]

Thanks for the response. My last rev. cannon ball VDI "19" thought it was a round ball, until it went pass 12". 18" 4 lb. solid round ball 6" from a KGII! You just never know!!!

 

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

Field2, recovery 2, 5 tone, multi, auto gb, volume 25, noise cancel. Hit the cellar hole area in 19-20 sensitivity first, then lower sensitivity to 15 and slow way down and shorten your swing into the heavy iron areas.

 

[Iffy Signals]

Hit a bunch on cellas with the Nox last season. Settings look good. Work the sensitivity based on your iron. If your getting allot of falsing (200 year old iron nails love to fool the Nox) back it off to 15-18. Try and leave iron bias low if you can. Most often than not you do not need to be deep at a cella but you need to separate like a beast . HH and good luck.

 

[RelicMedic]

Well, I took it on its maiden voyage this morning to a shoreline that has produced some decent finds. I ran it as mentioned above and I can say this: if there is a button hidden anywhere at my cellar hole sites, the Nox is going to find them! Man it hits hard on mid and low conductors!!! Even the smallest piece is no match for it. It sniffed out a button shank, without the button! I got the coil over a few high conductors as well (brass gas fitting handle) and it was loud and clear. We tried a nail test, using 4 big square nails and a copper. His CTX only hit it one way, and was so scratchy when it did hit, that he said he wouldn't have dug it. The Nox nailed it in all directions. We replaced the copper with a thin, beach abused Canadian silver 5 cents (size of a US half dime) and positioned it in the middle of the nails. Neither detector hit it, no matter what settings we tried. I moved the nails out, about 2-3" from the coin, and the Nox saw it in both directions. The CTX didn't. The proof is in the pudding! I can't wait for this snow to melt so I can try it at my pounded sites. I have a feeling it's going to be a great year!!