Cool finds (Preforms, blades, arrowheads) *When was it made?*

[indianajaune]

Hi there,

Found some pretty cool native American chert/quartz tools at one single spot, all dug in a wooded area in New York state near lake Ontario. I haven't included in the pics the thousands of flakes that I've found there too (which indicates that it was clearly a spot used to craft tools). I would like some help to ID the arrowheads in order to have an idea of how old the site is.

Arrowhead 1 (quartz - 2 inches long and half an inch wide):


Arrowhead 2 (quartz - 2 inches long and half an inch wide):


Arrowhead 3 (chert, only the base has been found):


Other stuff 1:


Other stuff 2:


Other stuff 3:


Other stuff 4:


Thanks for your help!

 

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[Tdog]

You need a size reference and a contrasting background in your pics (a known coin and for white points-->>, a dark background). Not asking for GPS coordinates but where "near New York" were they found. Hey, maybe the state
where you actually found them! Duh!

 

[indianajaune]

I found them in New York state near lake Ontario

In terms of length, they are about 2 inches long and half an inch wide (quite small points)! Sorry for the lack of precisions I'm pretty new here!!!

 

[Tdog]

I'm pretty new here!!!

Me too. How many years does it take for the new to wear off? I've been here 2!

Thanks for the update.

 

[Tony in SC]

Good finds! A spot like that can produce for a long time?

 

[dognose]

Some interesting relics.

what are the different material types? A few appear to be quartz.

Can you elaborate on the statement: "dug in a wooded area in New York state near lake Ontario" ?

 

[pepperj]

Nice recoveries.
Photo#4-3rd one had me looking closer (wow look at the beautiful work)
Then I enlarged the photo and me eyes saw the paper towel dot impression in an arc.

Are you screening or just scratching the site?

 

[indianajaune]

Good finds! A spot like that can produce for a long time?

Yeah, I believe so. I would say I've dug about 25% of the site so far (I haven't included everything that I found in this thread). Took me like 2-3 months to excavate 25%, and I'm not done cleaning all the flakes yet.

 

[indianajaune]

Some interesting relics.

what are the different material types? A few appear to be quartz.

Can you elaborate on the statement: "dug in a wooded area in New York state near lake Ontario" ?

In terms of material 98% is white chert (mixed with a bit of grey chert), 2% is quartz. Looks like the quartz points weren't made on the site since I'm barely finding quartz flakes.

For the discovery of the site, I was walking in a wooded area near water, found a single flake of white chert on the ground. I picked it up and made a hole right next to it to see if I could find more flakes. In that small hole found a lot of flakes so I figured I was on something. The artifacts aren't too deep underground since the site has never been disturbed. To me, the site is pretty interesting since it gives a good idea of the steps the native Americans were going through when crafting tools (from the chert preforms to the finished pieces).

Here's a photo on the first chert flake I found on the ground:

 

[indianajaune]

Nice recoveries.
Photo#4-3rd one had me looking closer (wow look at the beautiful work)
Then I enlarged the photo and me eyes saw the paper towel dot impression in an arc.

Are you screening or just scratching the site?

Yeah, I use paper towels to dry those artifacts that I find after washing em

I'm scratching the site

 

[Garscale]

Yeah, I use paper towels to dry those artifacts that I find after washing em

I'm scratching the site

How deep have you dug?

 

[indianajaune]

How deep have you dug?

Somewhere between 4-8 inches. Found 3 fire pits there too but 0 pieces of pottery (which makes me think that it could be older than pottery).

Also, a weird thing about this site is that even though I find a LOT of chert flakes, I barely find chert arrowheads. I only found 1 broken base of a chert arrowhead. I find a decent amount of quartz arrowhead (4 so far), yet I barely find quartz flakes.

Here's a photo of the site to give you an idea:

 

[indianajaune]

Here's also a picture of some cleaned flakes found on site so you can get an idea of the material:

 

[indianajaune]

For the ones interested, I successfully identified what I believe to be the arrowhead type I found.

Those would be "Ace of Spades" arrowhead (more info here), which is in the "Small points" category.

Here's also "Ace of Spades" arrowhead that archeologists found, which look very similar to mine (picture 2 on my thread).