do you think this is an double die?***update***
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Re: do you think this is an double die?
That appears to be a late die stage Jefferson nickel with mechanical doubling. Only thing that is wierd about it is the Mint mark, which should look different if it was mechanical doubling. Almost looks repunched, but the mint has used a single press procedure for years now, to eliminate the true double die from occuring, supposedly. as late as 1995 the mint admitted that it was still possible for one to occur, based on experts pressing the issue with them. Not sure how that one turned out though.
An interesting piece, though. You may want to have it looked at further. I'm no expert by any means.
That appears to be a late die stage Jefferson nickel with mechanical doubling. Only thing that is wierd about it is the Mint mark, which should look different if it was mechanical doubling. Almost looks repunched, but the mint has used a single press procedure for years now, to eliminate the true double die from occuring, supposedly. as late as 1995 the mint admitted that it was still possible for one to occur, based on experts pressing the issue with them. Not sure how that one turned out though.
An interesting piece, though. You may want to have it looked at further. I'm no expert by any means.
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Re: do you think this is an double die?
I agree with Jeffro about this being mechanical doubling. I too,am not an expert but I've found and sold 23 of the 2004 P Peace Metal nickels. I was reading my weekly Numismatic news and I read that those coins were being found. An article by Billy Crawford had the coin story and really good pictures. I went to the bank and got 3 rolls of the nickels mentioned and I compared them to Billy's pics, sure as the world,I had 23 that matched. I settled for the wholesale price and sold 16 of them for $600. I gave away 5 and I still have 2. That was truely beginner's luck.
I could've retailed them for at least $295 each, but that takes alot of effort and time. Anywaysz, for great pictures of true doubling visit Ken Potter's Educational Image Gallery at www.Koinpro.com. Ken's the official Attributer of Double Die coins
for a major coin club. As Jeffro mentioned, don't write you coin off until you get it checked out by a pro, there's at least 12 different kinds of double die coins.
I agree with Jeffro about this being mechanical doubling. I too,am not an expert but I've found and sold 23 of the 2004 P Peace Metal nickels. I was reading my weekly Numismatic news and I read that those coins were being found. An article by Billy Crawford had the coin story and really good pictures. I went to the bank and got 3 rolls of the nickels mentioned and I compared them to Billy's pics, sure as the world,I had 23 that matched. I settled for the wholesale price and sold 16 of them for $600. I gave away 5 and I still have 2. That was truely beginner's luck.
I could've retailed them for at least $295 each, but that takes alot of effort and time. Anywaysz, for great pictures of true doubling visit Ken Potter's Educational Image Gallery at www.Koinpro.com. Ken's the official Attributer of Double Die coins
for a major coin club. As Jeffro mentioned, don't write you coin off until you get it checked out by a pro, there's at least 12 different kinds of double die coins.
mlw67
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Re: do you think this is an double die?
That's pretty groovy, whitesid. I hope it turns out to be real!
That's pretty groovy, whitesid. I hope it turns out to be real!
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Re: do you think this is an double die?
If you go to the koinpro website, he will give you information on how to send him coins. I had him check a couple and he will include a letter explaining the coin.
If you go to the koinpro website, he will give you information on how to send him coins. I had him check a couple and he will include a letter explaining the coin.
Dave in Kentucky
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Those are some great pics. Mind if I ask what kind of camera you're using?
civilman1
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If it's not a DD then there's probably chocolate inside.....Look's pretty good to me!!
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After a "Coin Die" strikes more than 100,000 coins it becomes naturally
deteriorated and starts losing it's edges and shape.
When that happens it starts lifting the Grain of the Metal, the same way it
appears in the close-up pictures. And although it is producing coins that actually
has doubling, this type of doubling is very common.
On "Doubled Die" coins there will be "Separation" of the two images.
Machine or Mechanical Doubling usually looks like the image has slid over and the two images are not separated and has a shadow effect look to it.
To get a better example of a true Doubled Die coin try this.
Take an ink stamper and stamp an image.(This is like the coin die).
Now lift the stamper straight up, move it in any direction 1/16th of an inch
and stamp the image again. You will see slight separation on the edges of words.
Now to see common doubling(called many different things)...
Stamp the image, but this time do not lift the stamper... but "slide" it in any
direction. Since it slid there is no actual separation. These coins are very common
and has no value other than the face value.
Any feedback from any professionals ?(How'd I do this time ?)
deteriorated and starts losing it's edges and shape.
When that happens it starts lifting the Grain of the Metal, the same way it
appears in the close-up pictures. And although it is producing coins that actually
has doubling, this type of doubling is very common.
On "Doubled Die" coins there will be "Separation" of the two images.
Machine or Mechanical Doubling usually looks like the image has slid over and the two images are not separated and has a shadow effect look to it.
To get a better example of a true Doubled Die coin try this.
Take an ink stamper and stamp an image.(This is like the coin die).
Now lift the stamper straight up, move it in any direction 1/16th of an inch
and stamp the image again. You will see slight separation on the edges of words.
Now to see common doubling(called many different things)...
Stamp the image, but this time do not lift the stamper... but "slide" it in any
direction. Since it slid there is no actual separation. These coins are very common
and has no value other than the face value.
Any feedback from any professionals ?(How'd I do this time ?)
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