✅ SOLVED Dug this on a ridge near the Fort Chiswell, Va. area

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This round ball is right at 45 cal. The marks are a
mystery to me. Was in VA. clay at 6" or so. My question is what do you think the marks are from and is this a possible Civil War Round bullet. picture_2017_8_23_22_14_37_655.webppicture_2017_8_23_22_14_21_212.webppicture_2017_8_23_22_13_49_805.webppicture_2017_8_23_22_13_23_60.webp

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Though the one set of markings appear to resemble the letter C and number 7, is it possible that they could be teeth marks? Just wondering. I know of some musket balls that were found from the War of 1812 that had been chewed, supposedly to keep from screaming from pain when at a field hospital. Gave birth to the phrase "bite the bullet".

Yes, that came to mind just after a good look at it. Have read of animals chewing on them also, but yeah,
you just never know....but...is it a bullet...and to what?

Thanks !!
 

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A lead ball measuring .45-inch can be a pistol ball for a .44 cap-&-ball revolver, such as Colt, whose .44 bulletmolds made a conical bullet AND a roundball. It could also be an antipersonnel ball from a civil war 3-inch caliber Schenkl Case-Shot shell... which could explain some impact damage on it WITHOUT the rifling-marks that a fired .44 Revolver ball would show.

I must add... the "bite the bullet" (also "Pain Bullet") legend is a myth. It has been thoroughly disproven. The proof is too lengthy to go into here. But especially, there is no record AT ALL of any "bite the bullet/Pain-Bullet scenarios in either the Medical Literature of the period, nor military reports. Surely if such a thing was "medically prescribed," or was done by the wounded soldier's comrades before arrival at a Field Hospital, there would be records of it. The last thing you want to put in the mouth of a soldier in agony is a small lead object, which would likely be swallowed. Instead, a twisted rag or strip of leather was used.
 

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TheCannonballGuy,

3-inch caliber Schenkl Case-Shot shell.

Thanks for the expertise. Where might I find that these three inch shells were packed with .45 caliber round shot.
Thanks again !!
 

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I know the size of the lead antipersonnel balls in a civil war 3" Schenkl Case-Shot shell because I've dug a couple of "groundburst" ones (they burrowed into the ground before exploding), and I measured the lead antipersonnel balls which were still stuck to some of the iron shell fragments. But I should mention, sometimes the 3" Schenkl Case-Shot balls were .44-caliber balls, and sometimes .54-caliber balls were used.

Another way to check for Case-Shot antipersonnel ball size is to measure what appears to be the largest ball in a sawed-in-half Case-Shot shell. Most of the balls will LOOK smaller, because the sawblade does not cut most of the balls into perfect halves, of course. (Like if you don't "center" the knife when you cut an Orange in half.)
 

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I know the size of the lead antipersonnel balls in a civil war 3" Schenkl Case-Shot shell because I've dug a couple of "groundburst" ones (they burrowed into the ground before exploding), and I measured the lead antipersonnel balls which were still stuck to some of the iron shell fragments. But I should mention, sometimes the 3" Schenkl Case-Shot balls were .44-caliber balls, and sometimes .54-caliber balls were used.

Another way to check for Case-Shot antipersonnel ball size is to measure what appears to be the largest ball in a sawed-in-half Case-Shot shell. Most of the balls will LOOK smaller, because the sawblade does not cut most of the balls into perfect halves, of course. (Like if you don't "center" the knife when you cut an Orange in half.)

Thanks!! :thumbsup:
 

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A lead ball measuring .45-inch can be a pistol ball for a .44 cap-&-ball revolver, such as Colt, whose .44 bulletmolds made a conical bullet AND a roundball. It could also be an antipersonnel ball from a civil war 3-inch caliber Schenkl Case-Shot shell... which could explain some impact damage on it WITHOUT the rifling-marks that a fired .44 Revolver ball would show.

I must add... the "bite the bullet" (also "Pain Bullet") legend is a myth. It has been thoroughly disproven. The proof is too lengthy to go into here. But especially, there is no record AT ALL of any "bite the bullet/Pain-Bullet scenarios in either the Medical Literature of the period, nor military reports. Surely if such a thing was "medically prescribed," or was done by the wounded soldier's comrades before arrival at a Field Hospital, there would be records of it. The last thing you want to put in the mouth of a soldier in agony is a small lead object, which would likely be swallowed. Instead, a twisted rag or strip of leather was used.

Here is a write up on what you stated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bite_the_bullet
 

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