Found a Smoker! Paleo? Need help with ID

[americanartifacts33]

Found a sweet little point on a gravel bar in a nice creek.. The flaking on the point looks very paleo to me but I can figure out what style point it is.. Help is needed, thanks in advance!

 

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[joshuaream]

That would be an interesting one to ask Matt Rowe his opinion on. Where was it found?

Kind of reminds me of an Allen point that a later group rebased into a knife. I think it started out as paleo and ended useful life several thousand years later.

 

[arrow86]

That is a killer point .... flaking is really nice not sure of the type

 

[americanartifacts33]

FYI, Here is the in situ find video..

 

[Tony in SC]

Great point!! Once in a lifetime piece. I don't see how you spotted it, all those rock look the same to me.

 

[Twitch]

Agree that the flaking looks Paleo and that it’s possibly a reworked piece.

I was also out hunting creeks I your area this weekend. I live in St Charles so hunting gravel like that is normal for this area. Nice find my friend.

 

[old digger]

That collateral flaking sure looks nice. Nicely reworked into a knife.

 

[americanartifacts33]

I just looked Matt Rowe name up online and found "Central States Archaeological Societies", moreover they have an upcoming educational event nearby me in a couple weeks. I will attend and bring the piece with me. Thanks!

 

[dognose]

That is a nice find.

Are the sides and base ground?

 

[ptsofnc]

Beauty!

 

[Relicgrubber]

Sweet looking, well made! Congrats

Sorta reminds me of a Rio Grande type paleo.

 

[painterx7]

Killer !!!!

 

[americanartifacts33]

This probably isn't the same style of point but there seems to be some similarities. Look at figure B on the below picture. That would be something else if they were similar that would mean the point I found is super super old.. I found my point Central Eastern Missouri. The pictured "Pre-Clovis" points came from Texas

 

[americanartifacts33]

Thanks! I bet you and I have walked many of the same creeks over the years.. Good luck hunting to you.

 

[madmantrapper]

What a pair of eyes, great find.

 

[Twitch]

I just looked Matt Rowe name up online and found "Central States Archaeological Societies", moreover they have an upcoming educational event nearby me in a couple weeks. I will attend and bring the piece with me. Thanks!

Are you referencing the GSLAS meeting? If so, I'll see you there!!!

 

[ToddsPoint]

From the fine ripples on the flake scars to the red color, that piece was heated treated without a doubt. Paleo and early archaic seldom heated their flint. I'd say it was made between middle archaic and woodland times. Gary

 

[americanartifacts33]

Are you referencing the GSLAS meeting? If so, I'll see you there!!!

I think so, I ll see you there!

 

[americanartifacts33]

From the fine ripples on the flake scars to the red color, that piece was heated treated without a doubt. Paleo and early archaic seldom heated their flint. I'd say it was made between middle archaic and woodland times. Gary

Hmm that is an interesting thought; thank you for your input. In a couple weeks I am bringing it to an Archaeological exhibit, I ll ask about the potential of it being heat treated as well as the time period etc
-Steve

 

[the creek gang]

Found a sweet little point on a gravel bar in a nice creek.. The flaking on the point looks very paleo to me but I can figure out what style point it is.. Help is needed, thanks in advance!

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