Gallon of Junk

[63cagedfalcon]

Picked this jar up this weekend.
Talked them down to a reasonable cost (to me).
These are my finds(?).

 

[ArfieBoy]

I have several smaller jars like that sitting around my garage. I love the old red-handled can opener. My parents used to have a couple like that when I was a kid in the 1950's. Cool junk jar! Thanks for posting.

 

[63cagedfalcon]

The oiler is selling for about twice what I paid for jar, it's the reason I bought it.

 

[Vermont treasure hunter]

Some of those spoons look like maybe silver. Do any of them say sterling or have hallmarks?

 

[63cagedfalcon]

Some of those spoons look like maybe silver. Do any of them say sterling or have hallmarks?

All non-magnetic, most variations of Rogers & Oneida. All Sterling?

 

[Red-Coat]

Good haul, but the flatware all appears to be silver plate I'm afraid... and a magnet is not a good way to discriminate since the underlying base metal will usually be non-magnetic. Stratford Sectional Plate is self-evidently not sterling and anything carrying marks like AA, A1 PLUS and similar terms will be plate too. Those kinds of marks are a quality indication for plate thickness.

 

[63cagedfalcon]

Good haul, but the flatware all appears to be silver plate I'm afraid... and a magnet is not a good way to discriminate since the underlying base metal will usually be non-magnetic. Stratford Sectional Plate is self-evidently not sterling and anything carrying marks like AA, A1 PLUS and similar terms will be plate too. Those kinds of marks are a quality indication for plate thickness.

Even these?

 

[crashbandicoot]

That,s not junk!I love old stuff like that.A couple nice knives with a little grinding and sharpening could be made into something useful.Are those old hand powered hair clippers?Be nice in a display,and boy do I remember those old pocket screwdrivers with the magnet on the end!Always advertising for something on it and darn near every body used to have one in their shirt pocket.Junk? I don,t think so.

 

[63cagedfalcon]

Jars of buttons, marbles or "junk", they've always called to me.

That screwdriver is for Buck's Radiator & Mufflers, just happens to be wife's maiden name, so staying with her.

Son likes the tooth, go figure.

 

[Red-Coat]

Even these?View attachment 1914470View attachment 1914471

Yes. Silver plate.

Look again at the mark on the first of those. It’s marked ‘Stratford Plate Sectional’. There’s a clue in the name! Plate Sectional silverware was first developed in 1855 (your piece is rather later) and was so-called because it’s more heavily plated in the sections that are subject to the highest wear. The high spots where it would rest on the table such as the exterior base of the spoon bowl for example. 'Stratford Plate' was one of the trademarks of International Silver, which was a cartel of smaller manufacturers formed in 1898 who banded together in order to compete with larger manufacturers. That’s what the ‘IS’ mark signifies, but doesn’t mean the item is silver. Some of the group’s members made both silver and silver plate, but predominantly plate. One of the founder members was the Holmes & Edwards Silver Company of Bridgeport who originally owned the ‘Stratford’ mark.

The second item is also marked ‘IS’ since William Rogers was part of the International Silver group too. That’s also silver plate. If it were Sterling it would be marked as such, or with a fineness indication.

The third item is marked ‘1847 Rogers Brothers’ but that’s not the date it was made. It’s a trademark which incorporates the date when Rogers developed the process for electroplating silver onto base metal flatware. The trademark was first used in 1862 (although your piece will be rather later), which was the Jubilee year for the development of the process. All ‘1847 Rogers Brothers’ flatware is silver plate.

 

[63cagedfalcon]

Thanks Red Coat
This is my main go-to group when I can't figure out what something is or more background info.

Never hurts to ask.....

I do have a military patch nobody on the USMilitariaForums.com has seen before & between the wife & I, we've looked about 3 hours on the interwebs, nothing.

Very early VN era 62-64, USMC, was trained as antitank. Has a ghost imprint of an arrow diagonally lower right to upper left.

Try left would be fantastic.

Paul

 

[dejapooh]

Yeah, flatware is all plate, all valueless.

 

[crashbandicoot]

Ontos operator maybe? The ontos was a lightly armored vehicle with six 106 MM recoiless rifles mounted outside,intended for the anti tank mission but was never really used in that role as far as I know.One reason was that you had to exit the vehicle to reload the externally mounted guns.I believe they were used in Viet Nam as antipersonnel weapons and did well in that role since the 106 could fire a round loaded with approx.6000 flechettes I believe, with a time fuse to explode it at a predetermined range.Pretty devastating on the receiving end!The only other dedicated anti tank weapon in the Corps at that time was the 3.5 inch rocket launcher or the LAAWS rocket launcher,both kind of overgrown bazookas.Hope this helps with your patch ID.See you,re from AR,I,m in Dumas,the other end of the state from you.

 

[bigcaddy64]

I think your oiler is missing the lower peep window when you can visibly monitor the oil drip rate. If you plan on cleaning it up, carb cleaner is a quick way to clean brass. There are lots of parts vendors out there that sell replacement parts like glass, gaskets, etc.

The old tractor collector crowd are always looking for those so it should sell quick no matter what you decide to do.

 

[63cagedfalcon]

I think your oiler is missing the lower peep window when you can visibly monitor the oil drip rate. If you plan on cleaning it up, carb cleaner is a quick way to clean brass. There are lots of parts vendors out there that sell replacement parts like glass, gaskets, etc.

The old tractor collector crowd are always looking for those so it should sell quick no matter what you decide to do.

Bigcaddy64
Thanks, I did spot that. I want to build a small version of the "African Queen" with Hepburn & Bogart but using a hit miss instead of steam. About 18-20 foot, 50s wide aluminum hull with a woodgrain wrap on exterior. The oiler is the first of many parts....maybe [emoji848]

Ontos operator maybe? The ontos was a lightly armored vehicle with six 106 MM recoiless rifles mounted outside,intended for the anti tank mission but was never really used in that role as far as I know.One reason was that you had to exit the vehicle to reload the externally mounted guns.I believe they were used in Viet Nam as antipersonnel weapons and did well in that role since the 106 could fire a round loaded with approx.6000 flechettes I believe, with a time fuse to explode it at a predetermined range.Pretty devastating on the receiving end!The only other dedicated anti tank weapon in the Corps at that time was the 3.5 inch rocket launcher or the LAAWS rocket launcher,both kind of overgrown bazookas.Hope this helps with your patch ID.See you,re from AR,I,m in Dumas,the other end of the state from you.

Thanks Crash, does make since, still end to find his unit though.

Don't really get over that way but noodle new area to scavenge more "stuff".

Paul

 

[dts52]

Very interesting collection of “junk”. Is that a legitimate dog tag in the photo?
dts

 

[pepperj]

Yeah, flatware is all plate, all valueless.

Yes it's plate
No not valueless

It has a scrap value of yellow brass-37oz. would be $3.00.
But then again what's $3 right-easier to throw it in the trash bin.

I sure didn't retire off those thoughts when I had the scrap business.

 

[pepperj]

Kind of a cool purchase gab jar of items-well done.

 

[63cagedfalcon]

Very interesting collection of “junk”. Is that a legitimate dog tag in the photo?
dts

Yes it is, USN, looks to VN era. It's in my box with others that need to be researched.