Garrett Ace 400 vs AT Pro?

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Hey everyone. I have a Garrett Ace 400 and I have enjoyed it so far but I know I can do better and I was thinking of upgrading to a Garrett AT Pro. I was wondering what advantages there would to such an upgrade and if anyone has any reviews of the performance of these two detectors side-by-side. Thanks in advance.
 

AT Pro Waterproof. That is worth the upgrade.
 

Meaning the entire unit and not just the coil?
 

Yes the whole unit up to 10 ft deep.
 

Are there any other advantages? That is a good feature, for sure but I don't live around a lot of water--or at least none that is clear enough to do anything. The water detecting I find myself doing usually consists of bluffs and shallow streams.

The Ace 400 has been a decent detector. My only complaints have been that it doesn't discriminate as good as I would like it to and that the depth indicator is usually inaccurate. I would like to go deper with more accuracy.
 

I don't know about garrett much. I have been running Tesoro machines. I myself would only opt for an at pro for water. I would do a youtube comparison. Another words do my homework before investing. There is no one machine do all so to speak. That is why all these guys on here have 100 dif detectors. How serious are you? The deeper you go the less accurate the ID will be. My opinion. Let us say this, on my machine a pull tab sounds like a pull tab close up but it gets smoother the deeper it gets, just one illustration. More money normally means deeper some what. My Tejon is way deeper than my compadre. $160 vs. $600.
 

Hey everyone. I have a Garrett Ace 400 and I have enjoyed it so far but I know I can do better and I was thinking of upgrading to a Garrett AT Pro. I was wondering what advantages there would to such an upgrade and if anyone has any reviews of the performance of these two detectors side-by-side. Thanks in advance.

As already mentioned, the AT Pro is water proof. The ACE Series are not. The AT Pro has modulated audio, the ACE does not. A lot of hunters prefer the modulated audio, as the deeper the target, the weaker the signal. With the ACE, the weak signals are amplified giving them the the same level of audio. Modulated audio allows the hunter to gauge the depth of a target based on it's audio. With the ACE, you have to do a visual check to see what the depth is. I have many hours on both detectors. They both can get good depth, same size coil comparison. Both are sensitive to tiny targets. The ACE will false a little more when touching twigs during the coil swing, and the swing speed is a little slower on the ACE 400, but both of those issues are minor and don't prevent you from getting good targets. The AT Pro is a little more accurate with IDing targets, both shallow and at limited depth. The ACE 400 will read common clad a number or two higher beyond 3 inches, but learning this allows the user to get a fairly accurate guess on a probable target. Both detectors, once properly learned, will find you a lot of coins, jewelry and relics in a variety of places. And using the notching system on both models will not give you less depth like the discrimination knobs do on other makes of detectors. On Garrett's, when removing the different notches, you just lose the audio for that specific notch. On the rotary types on other makes, you lose increasing amounts of depth as you further advance turning the knob to discriminate more targets.

So, be careful when someone tells you a different metal detector is deeper. There are so many variables which can affect the depth of a machine such as settings, coil size, coil type, environment, operating frequency, size of target, conductivity, and user's skill . There are many more. Depth should not be the number one reason for getting a detector. If you truly want depth, get a Pulse Induction detector which will surpass all other detectors in depth, especially in extremely high mineralized soils. But....you lose discrimination abilities which most of us desire.

Below are the features of both the AT Series and ACE Series for comparison purposes. Hope this helps and gives you a better understanding on the two models...AT and ACE detectors.

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I don't know about garrett much. I have been running Tesoro machines. I myself would only opt for an at pro for water. I would do a youtube comparison. Another words do my homework before investing. There is no one machine do all so to speak. That is why all these guys on here have 100 dif detectors. How serious are you? The deeper you go the less accurate the ID will be. My opinion. Let us say this, on my machine a pull tab sounds like a pull tab close up but it gets smoother the deeper it gets, just one illustration. More money normally means deeper some what. My Tejon is way deeper than my compadre. $160 vs. $600.

More money does not equal more depth. More money is usually a reason for more bells and whistles, and to compensate for warranty issues, shipping charges etc. More bells and whistles allow the user to maybe get a more accurate description of any given target, and sometimes a reason not to dig a target, which isn't always a good thing. The best detector out there is the one you own, the one with thousands of hours of it. There are many guys using very expensive detectors being out hunted by people who have years of experience with a less expensive units. Once you learn your detector well, you learn little tricks and odd repetitions teaching you things about your machine which are not in any manual. It is a special bond between you and your detector. When you can guess with good accuracy what is under the coil using your ears, and not the other way around what your TID is telling you, then you have mastered your machine.
 

Thank you. This is exactly the type of info I was looking for. Have experienced the false rings when the coil is bumped while swinging--especially on high sensitivity. I have learned to cope with it though and it hasn't held me back. The audio modulation is really the only major difference between the two that I would be interested in. I'm not sure if that is worth the upgrade for me.


As already mentioned, the AT Pro is water proof. The ACE Series are not. The AT Pro has modulated audio, the ACE does not. A lot of hunters prefer the modulated audio, as the deeper the target, the weaker the signal. With the ACE, the weak signals are amplified giving them the the same level of audio. Modulated audio allows the hunter to gauge the depth of a target based on it's audio. With the ACE, you have to do a visual check to see what the depth is. I have many hours on both detectors. They both can get good depth, same size coil comparison. Both are sensitive to tiny targets. The ACE will false a little more when touching twigs during the coil swing, and the swing speed is a little slower on the ACE 400, but both of those issues are minor and don't prevent you from getting good targets. The AT Pro is a little more accurate with IDing targets, both shallow and at limited depth. The ACE 400 will read common clad a number or two higher beyond 3 inches, but learning this allows the user to get a fairly accurate guess on a probable target. Both detectors, once properly learned, will find you a lot of coins, jewelry and relics in a variety of places. And using the notching system on both models will not give you less depth like the discrimination knobs do on other makes of detectors. On Garrett's, when removing the different notches, you just lose the audio for that specific notch. On the rotary types on other makes, you lose increasing amounts of depth as you further advance turning the knob to discriminate more targets.

So, be careful when someone tells you a different metal detector is deeper. There are so many variables which can affect the depth of a machine such as settings, coil size, coil type, environment, operating frequency, size of target, conductivity, and user's skill . There are many more. Depth should not be the number one reason for getting a detector. If you truly want depth, get a Pulse Induction detector which will surpass all other detectors in depth, especially in extremely high mineralized soils. But....you lose discrimination abilities which most of us desire.

Below are the features of both the AT Series and ACE Series for comparison purposes. Hope this helps and gives you a better understanding on the two models...AT and ACE detectors.

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Thank you. This is exactly the type of info I was looking for. Have experienced the false rings when the coil is bumped while swinging--especially on high sensitivity. I have learned to cope with it though and it hasn't held me back. The audio modulation is really the only major difference between the two that I would be interested in. I'm not sure if that is worth the upgrade for me.

I would just sit on the ACE for a while and see what new products show up.
 

Well said. Tejon is way deeper than the compadre. I stated that i was not familiar with garrett. I will get a at pro for water soon enough.
 

AT Pro Waterproof. That is worth the upgrade.

Although a lot of people won't water hunt, they may change their mind at a later date..........
 

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