Help I.D On Stemmer please.

[Tnmountains]

I have often wondered what this item was. I thought maybe Adena but the base is all wrong. Not a mud creek. It seems to be some kinda knife. The notes say I dug it in Sequatchie county Tn. (S.E,Tn) I really do not remember which site as it was long ago. It was in an old rack of points in the basement. It seems to be Dover flint or Grey flint. Do you have one like it or another example to post? What do you guys think?
Here are the pics.

Its 2.5 x 1



Not to fat.



The base is not ground.



Another veiw. Kinda primitive workmanship.



Thanks for your help.
Happy Huntin
TnMountains

 

[uniface]

 

[Th3rty7]

I'm nearly positive it's a Cresap. A woodland era point that is related to the Adena culture stuff. They're fairly common in southern West Virginia and extend south to your area in Tn. They're like Adenas with a wider, squared off base.

Some examples have fine secondary edgework.


http://www.projectilepoints.net/Pages/Searches/Points/Cresap.html

 

[Tnmountains]

I'm nearly positive it's a Cresap. A woodland era point that is related to the Adena culture stuff. They're fairly common in southern West Virginia and extend south to your area in Tn. They're like Adenas with a wider, squared off base.


http://www.projectilepoints.net/Pages/Searches/Points/Cresap.html

Hmm the base is a true 90 degrees not a slight convex to slight? Its really square. I have not seen another like it even from friends. Its possible though. Do you have an example 37 if its a common type? Thanks.

 

[Th3rty7]

Benton would be my second guess, the flaking is somewhat crude.

http://www.projectilepoints.net/Pages/Searches/Points/Benton.html


I'll look in some frames but I dont think I've really got a good example.

 

[Tnmountains]

Now Bentons are common here, the top Cresap in your Overstreets looks like it. The distribution was kinda slim around here for that but it looks like it. I have never even heard of it before. I think its rare for my area. Nice I.D Thirty7 looks like you nailed it. You are fast !!!!
So Cresap(treesap?) is it until proved diffrent. Cool looking knife I think.
Thank you sir.
TnMtns

 

[Th3rty7]

Now Bentons are common here, the top Cresap in your Overstreets looks like it. The distribution was kinda slim around here for that but it looks like it. I have never even heard of it before. I think its rare for my area. Nice I.D Thirty7 looks like you nailed it. You are fast !!!!
So Cresap(treesap?) is it until proved diffrent. Cool looking knife I think.
Thank you sir.
TnMtns

Nice woodland knife and material in my book. Yeah I shouldn't have thrown ' common ' in there, pretty misleading. I just know of a small museum that is full of this type from the construction of a dam in southern WV.

If you or anyone else needs a quick i.d. reference with pics, gimme a hollar, I'm your man.

 

[Tnmountains]

Now Bentons are common here, the top Cresap in your Overstreets looks like it. The distribution was kinda slim around here for that but it looks like it. I have never even heard of it before. I think its rare for my area. Nice I.D Thirty7 looks like you nailed it. You are fast !!!!
So Cresap(treesap?) is it until proved diffrent. Cool looking knife I think.
Thank you sir.
TnMtns

Nice woodland knife and material in my book. Yeah I shouldn't have thrown ' common ' in there, pretty misleading. I just know of a small museum that is full of this type from the construction of a dam in southern WV.

If you or anyone else needs a quick i.d. reference with pics, gimme a hollar, I'm your man.

Yes you are good at quickly identifying. A second picture always helps. Thanks
Green check coming !

 

[Newt]

Could be a Kirk variant sharpened down.
Newt

 

[Tnmountains]

Could be a Kirk variant sharpened down.
Newt

Newt
I find a lot of Kirks and diffrent types of Kirks. Do you have a picture that might show this? Please post.
Thanks Newt. Any luck on selling your point?

 

[Newt]

Could be a Kirk variant sharpened down.
Newt

Newt
I find a lot of Kirks and diffrent types of Kirks. Do you have a picture that might show this? Please post.
Thanks Newt. Any luck on selling your point?

All I'm showing here is the similar bases. Imagine this point lasting through many sharpenings. I know I have a better example somehere. Found this one last Friday.
Newt
Newt

 

[Tnmountains]

I would say same base but my point does not have any shoulders. Nice find Newt.

 

[chong2]

its, nice one tn

 

[The Grim Reaper]

My first thought when I saw that point was a Cresap.

Tn, here's a couple Cresaps that look similar to yours.

 

[creek astronaut]

at first glance i thought a stemmed lance because of the slight shoulders & squared stem not expanding/contracting like a typical cresap but the flaking is all wrong for it to be a stemmed lance,think you guys got it pegged right.isnt it great to be a rock geek lol.

 

[crow12c]

etley.

 

[Tnmountains]

etley.

I think to small and lack of shoulders Crow ?

 

[all_atv]

Don't know if it helps but I got one kinda similar. And an insitu, found about 5 feet up in the bank in a gravel deposit in a small stream.

 

[Tnmountains]

Looks as if that is what it was becoming. Nice insitu by the way