Help ID lead shot pouch

[kenb]

This has been in my family for years yet know one seems to know anything about it. Its full of bird shot, the ends pop out with a measured amount of shot. It says patented but no #s. I'm trying to put an age to it so I can figure out which relative may have owned it. Thanks in advance, and thank you Dylan for the pics.

kenb

 

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[Montana Jim]

Man thats awesome, and well taken care of obviously. I dunno what it is, but it's a beauty.

 

[Monty]

My best guess is that one side held shot and the other side held powder. I've neer seen one like that but it seems to be a shot/black powder despenser all in one, a very unique idea. No doubt used for a muzzle loading shotgun. Why do I think black powder? Because the fittings are made of brass that won't spark and accidentally set off the powder. So, where did they keep their over powder wads and over shot wads? probably some other just as clever despenser. If that is what it is, it's really a good find. Those hobbyests who shoot and hunt with black powder shotguns would find it especially handy in the field. Monty

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Shot "Snake" for muzzleloading shotgun. Probably double barreled. Two different shot sizes (i.e. #4 for geese in one barrel and #6 for ducks in the other). It's a little too "leaky" for powder.

It's called an "Irish Style" with the cups that pull out. The "English Style" have a teeter-totter type dispenser that stays attached when dispensing by push-button.

Maybe 1840's to 1860's or thereabouts. But they are still made and available, so it could be much more recent.

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Leather Snake shot

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Dang it ...I was trying to find a picture when Monty and Charlie posted ....wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[dgaughan]

it looks like they are narrowing it down for you ken

 

[DJ_Quinn]

Shot "Snake" for muzzleloading shotgun. Probably double barreled. Two different shot sizes (i.e. #4 for geese in one barrel and #6 for ducks in the other). It's a little too "leaky" for powder.

It's called an "Irish Style" with the cups that pull out. The "English Style" have a teeter-totter type dispenser that stays attached when dispensing by push-button.

Maybe 1840's to 1860's or thereabouts. But they are still made and available, so it could be much more recent.

i think Charlie nailed it, well done!

That's a great relic, interesting and it has the right look of being mid ninteenth century.

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Yours has the Irish valve tho ...if that helps

 

[kenb]

Thank you Charlie, sounds like you know your stuff!! the rifle and revolver that came with it are both 1860's so the time frame is right. Now if I could only locate the shotgun it was for!!! thanks for the comparison pics gypsy!

kenb

 

[Monty]

Charlie's probably right about the double barrel shotgun thing. I was thinking about the single shot muzzle loaders. The powder container was probably seperate and metal as the leather might draw moisture into the powder? Do I get a half right on this so I can say I'm now .05% correct? Monty

 

[Gypsy Heart]

One on ebay in bad shape

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Irish-L...ackpowder_W0QQitemZ180088039736QQcmdZViewItem


Could I be half right or get a point for effort? Someones keeping score here....................................................Monty

 

[kenb]

Thanks gypsy thats almost identical, 10 points

kenb

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Thank you Charlie, sounds like you know your stuff!!

I know a little about everything but not much about anything. You just found a good category.

That's me in the middle.

 

[dgaughan]

well ken it looks like they nailed it for you. i'll be by later and take some pics of that colt that came with it

dylan

 

[fossis]

Very beautiful family Heirloom,

You sell yourself short Charlie, you seem to know a lot.

Fossis........................

 

[Montana Jim]

Very beautiful family Heirloom,

You sell yourself short Charlie, you seem to know a lot.

Fossis........................

I agree... Charlie, you have been nailing the "whatsits" pretty good, must help to be so familiar with the gear.

Well done!

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

As I say - good subject.

I also come from a family where my Dad (an only child) was in his late 40's when I was born, and his Dad was in his late 40's when my Dad was born. That's 140+ years in just the stuff I've owned, seen and handled in cellars, basements and garages as "household items" that pile up (Dad was a bit of a pack rat).

Grandpa was born in 1879 and his father was a pvt. in the NY 9th Heavy Artillery in the CW (see image -in his "Post-War" years).

 

[kenb]

Very cool picture Charlie. I've got an 1861 Colt navy revolver that belonged to the same person as the shot pouch, my Great Grandfather three or four times out. He fought for the Union army in the civil war at the age of seventeen. I'll post some pics during the week.

kenb

 

[slowreaper]

Thank you Charlie, sounds like you know your stuff!!

I know a little about everything but not much about anything. You just found a good category.

That's me in the middle.

The fella next to ya looks old enough to have a full length rifle.

Brad