Help identifying possible very old coins, please!

[crossfire631]

Help identifying possible very old coins, please! Added new photos

Found these two at the same site that goes back to colonial times several years ago. If I remember correctly in same hole as well. Have never been able to identify them at all. Have been slowly removing layers of dirt from them to this point. Broken coin has some minor detail of possible letters on one edge. Complete coin can almost see outline of a profile with possible characters circling above? Reverse of both am unable to make out anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Added photos that I hope helps. Thanks!

 

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[huntsman53]

I can't help much! The coin in the 1st pic has a large bust facing right with what appears to be stars just inside the rim from K-9 to K-3. The coin in the 2nd and 3rd pics appears to have a bust possibly facing right with the letters "L" and "S" at the bottom. I can't even tell the composition. It somewhat looks as if they are showing rust but that might be Bronze showing through. I wonder if the coin in the 1st pic is actually a coin and whether it may be a button as it has the appearance that it was Silver washed and has the bulge.

 

[unclemac]

​show us the back sides too even if you can't make things out

 

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[crossfire631]

Added some more photos hopefully they help. Will work on getting some with better camera. Thanks for the help so far