🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Is this a real coin or fantasy piece?

[cudamark]

I thought it was a big brass washer when I first found it. It was encrusted and before I cleaned it, I didn't realize it had a hole in the middle. It's huge....60mm or 2 5/16" in diameter. I know both Japan and China made some real big coins, but, I can't seem to find a match. Something more modern than my 1981 World Coin book? Souvenir piece?

 

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Tao Kuang T'ung Pao, China, 1821-1850

One (1) tao kuang t'ung pao coin, Emperor Hsuan Tsung (Ch'ing/Qing)

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[xracer550]

I found one similar to that at the Kern river in Keyesville They used to give them to the Chinese workers as payment for work then they would go to the company store & buy goods , To bad my brother's son lost it I have no pict. Great find !

 

[Mackaydon]

Clearly, the "Amazon" coin pic is not the same coin as the OP's.
Don in SoCal.

 

[Mackaydon]

This would be closer:

Described as a Bronze Phoenix Pattern, yet I can find nothing further to describe the 'coin'.
I believe the characters read: yong zheng tong bao (雍正通宝) .
Don...

 

[cudamark]

This would be closer:

Described as a Bronze Phoenix Pattern, yet I can find nothing further to describe the 'coin'.
I believe the characters read: yong zheng tong bao (雍正通宝) .
Don...

That sure looks like it....on that side anyway.

 

[Mackaydon]

Here's another (also without an adequate description)

Large 2 Round Coin or Cash With Square Hole in Center - Etsy

This Coins & Money item is sold by LindasCurios. Ships from Hilton Head Island, SC. Listed on Jun 9, 2023

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Don in SoCal

 

[cudamark]

That one isn't as close a match, but, similar in design.

 

[cudamark]

I found another one that has the one similar side and it was identified as Japanese. I have my doubts about that though.....looks more Chinese to me, but, what do I know?

 

[Red-Coat]

Interesting find. The obverse seems to be styled on cash coins from the Qing (Ch’ing) dynasty of China with the reign titles for the Yongzheng (Yung-Chen) Emperor, also known by his temple name Shizong (Shih Tsung). He reigned from late 1722 to 1735, with coinage produced from 1723-1735. See comparison below:



Most usually, his coins have the mint name on the reverse in Manchurian and Chinese characters, and the Manchu government also issued some cash coins from mints in the East Turkestan region during this period with reverse inscriptions in Arabic. It’s neither of those though, as well as being too large for a Qing coin.

I think this is not a coin in the sense that it was used as currency, but one of the many ‘charm coins’ usually produced in later times than the indicated Emperor. These were made as I-Ching divination and fortune-telling pieces, for Feng-Shui and other ‘good luck’ uses, and as celebratory gifts for birthdays, weddings, New Year etc. Often they have reverses with mystic designs/symbols, and stylised animals including dragons and such.

 

[Yang Hao]

Further adding to Red-Coat’s information, here is a link to an old Chinese online sales site with what appears to be the same coin.

旧黄铜器清代雍正通宝背龙凤吉祥特大花钱厌胜钱铜岁泉钱年代不详

book.kongfz.com

The title states it’s an “old” 雍正通宝 Yongzheng coin with a dragon and phoenix on the back to ward off evil spirits but not clear on when it was made. It was selling at that time for around 18 US dollars.

Happy treasure hunting.

 

[50bmg]

Clearly, the "Amazon" coin pic is not the same coin as the OP's.
Don in SoCal.

I cant even see that one anymore
after I looked at the "back" of the coin I deleted it and that was shortly after I posted it

 

[cudamark]

Further adding to Red-Coat’s information, here is a link to an old Chinese online sales site with what appears to be the same coin.

旧黄铜器清代雍正通宝背龙凤吉祥特大花钱厌胜钱铜岁泉钱年代不详

book.kongfz.com

The title states it’s an “old” 雍正通宝 Yongzheng coin with a dragon and phoenix on the back to ward off evil spirits but not clear on when it was made. It was selling at that time for around 18 US dollars.

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Happy treasure hunting.

That's the one! Thanks.