Is this authentic?

[444.Marlin]

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[Older The Better]

My 2 cents… eBay is always a huge red flag, I don’t know where in Arkansas but material looks right for the Arkansas Missouri Kansas area, and wondering why the flute is so clean but there is dirt in some of the smaller hinges… but most importantly I’m not confident to say yes or no. I hope it’s good though it would be a heck of a find, maybe you could look up that collection

 

[444.Marlin]

My 2 cents… eBay is always a huge red flag, I don’t know where in Arkansas but material looks right for the Arkansas Missouri Kansas area, and wondering why the flute is so clean but there is dirt in some of the smaller hinges… but most importantly I’m not confident to say yes or no. I hope it’s good though it would be a heck of a find, maybe you could look up that coll

 

[444.Marlin]

John minor was an old banker who would buy farmers collections and over the years he bought a total of around 5k arrowheads,banner stones,and celts,I just posted some pics from the collection.

 

[ToddsPoint]

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Did you remove the pic? Why? Please put the pic back up. This thread is meaningless without the pic.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Picture restored. 444.Marlin, please do not remove pictures once you start a thread, it destroys the thread and any replies members make. I know you are new here, If you need something removed please contact mod/admin with request to remove and why you want it removed. Thanks👍

 

[444.Marlin]

Sorry I dont know what i did,here is the clovis.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Sorry I dont know what i did,here is the clovis.

No apology needed at all sir, we are all good...

 

[CreekSide]

I’m not expert on that type of material but maybe someone will know where it’s from. Looks shiny to me

 

[CreekSide]

This frame doesn’t appear to be old. If the monolithic ax was real you could retire on it

 

[dognose]

The clovis looks like heat treated Burlington to me. It has the look of a St. Louis Clovis style - in my opinion. There is little to no mineralization that I can see and that does not look correct to me.

Concerning this photo, there does appear to be a monolithic axe, a mace, a wing butterfly banner stone, another banner stone, a celt, an axe and an object I can't determine. The mace looks like those found in Tennessee in the Duck River Cache.
I would be very suspicious of these. Not saying there could not be a few good relics, but these seem suspicious.

case in point a known Indiana collector died back in the 90's had a very large collection which 90% were reproductions, multiple sales spread out over many years. there were sprinkled here and there good relics. This collector lived in prime relic location but bought the majority of the relics. I have details but that's another story.


If a collector purchases relics, at one point or other reproductions will be obtained in error. It happens. The objective is to learn from it and not do it. But if a collector purchases relics and does not learn about authentic relics, the result is many reproductions in their collection.

 

[Mortenson]

I'm going to jump in here. The OP is my 12 year old son. He's learning a few hard and expensive lessons about becoming too independent, and doing so without permission. When I saw this thread, I told him to delete it, and the best he could figure out was deleting the pics. I've only been an infrequent poster here in the few years I've been a member. Many of the posts I've made have shown my kids and the points we've been blessed to discover in our farm fields. I don't even know the full story yet, but the OP of this thread was apparently trying to buy his dad a clovis as a father's day gift, since we know we'll likely never find one. His heart was in the right place. He conducted his own sleuthing, after it was too late, and learned he was likely the victim of a dishonest ebay seller. Hard lesson to learn, but we learn from our mistakes. He knows more about Indian artifacts than any kid I know. Thanks for hearing us out.

 

[BennyV]

I'm going to jump in here. The OP is my 12 year old son. He's learning a few hard and expensive lessons about becoming too independent, and doing so without permission. When I saw this thread, I told him to delete it, and the best he could figure out was deleting the pics. I've only been an infrequent poster here in the few years I've been a member. Many of the posts I've made have shown my kids and the points we've been blessed to discover in our farm fields. I don't even know the full story yet, but the OP of this thread was apparently trying to buy his dad a clovis as a father's day gift, since we know we'll likely never find one. His heart was in the right place. He conducted his own sleuthing, after it was too late, and learned he was likely the victim of a dishonest ebay seller. Hard lesson to learn, but we learn from our mistakes. He knows more about Indian artifacts than any kid I know. Thanks for hearing us out.

He gets an A for effort.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I'm going to jump in here. The OP is my 12 year old son. He's learning a few hard and expensive lessons about becoming too independent, and doing so without permission. When I saw this thread, I told him to delete it, and the best he could figure out was deleting the pics. I've only been an infrequent poster here in the few years I've been a member. Many of the posts I've made have shown my kids and the points we've been blessed to discover in our farm fields. I don't even know the full story yet, but the OP of this thread was apparently trying to buy his dad a clovis as a father's day gift, since we know we'll likely never find one. His heart was in the right place. He conducted his own sleuthing, after it was too late, and learned he was likely the victim of a dishonest ebay seller. Hard lesson to learn, but we learn from our mistakes. He knows more about Indian artifacts than any kid I know. Thanks for hearing us out.

And he is a welcome new member too. Polite and respectful, you can be proud.

 

[newnan man]

Your son sounds like a great kid & I hope his interests in artifacts lasts a lifetime.

 

[Limitool]

I'm going to jump in here. The OP is my 12 year old son. He's learning a few hard and expensive lessons about becoming too independent, and doing so without permission. When I saw this thread, I told him to delete it, and the best he could figure out was deleting the pics. I've only been an infrequent poster here in the few years I've been a member. Many of the posts I've made have shown my kids and the points we've been blessed to discover in our farm fields. I don't even know the full story yet, but the OP of this thread was apparently trying to buy his dad a clovis as a father's day gift, since we know we'll likely never find one. His heart was in the right place. He conducted his own sleuthing, after it was too late, and learned he was likely the victim of a dishonest ebay seller. Hard lesson to learn, but we learn from our mistakes. He knows more about Indian artifacts than any kid I know. Thanks for hearing us out.

I too hope his interest stays strong.... Good job with your son...!

 

[RGINN]

Outstanding young man, and hope he keeps that interest going!

 

[High Plains Prospectors]

I'm going to jump in here. The OP is my 12 year old son. He's learning a few hard and expensive lessons about becoming too independent, and doing so without permission. When I saw this thread, I told him to delete it, and the best he could figure out was deleting the pics. I've only been an infrequent poster here in the few years I've been a member. Many of the posts I've made have shown my kids and the points we've been blessed to discover in our farm fields. I don't even know the full story yet, but the OP of this thread was apparently trying to buy his dad a clovis as a father's day gift, since we know we'll likely never find one. His heart was in the right place. He conducted his own sleuthing, after it was too late, and learned he was likely the victim of a dishonest ebay seller. Hard lesson to learn, but we learn from our mistakes. He knows more about Indian artifacts than any kid I know. Thanks for hearing us out.

You should be very proud to have raised such a fine son and garnering his interest in history.