Last find of the year

[johnnyi]

I went back to the marsh one last time today for a couple of hours to the area where I'd been finding War of 1812 buttons and the swagger stick tip. There was just too much inspiration on the board not to give it a last try (thanks for the inspiration! ) It was a little easier to gain access to some higher places, as the ground had frozen over in spots and I could jump from island to island without sinking in. Aside from shotgun shells, this was the only find, but I'm mighty happy to have found it. I'm pretty sure its a shoulder bar from the 1812 period, but I hope some of the Rev War and 1812 war experts can chime in. It is quite heavy, with some of the gold gilt still remaining on the front and back. a design of leaves circles the single bar. Thanks for looking.

 

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[{Sentinel}]

Yes, that is what it looks like to me, most likely War of 1812 but could be earlier. Very nice Find

 

[johnnyi]

Yes, that is what it looks like to me, most likely War of 1812 but could be earlier. Very nice Find

Thanks man, but I'm not as sure as I was ten minutes ago. From the depth I pulled it, it is definately that old or older (good strata to read here which makes dating pretty easy) but I can't find an example yet. I'd assumed an epaulet mount because the four prongs seem designed for cloth, and of course the gold bar itself. but maybe it could have been mounted on something besides the shoulder?

 

[umrgolf]

Superb find Johnny

 

[kuger]

Man, I dont know,it does appear to have been used on a strap or a belt.I cant put my finger on it,thinking shoulder epaulet too?

 

[johnnyi]

Superb find Johnny

Thanks man, but congrats might be premature until I can figure this dern thing out. I'm waiting for some input on a couple other places, but this is such an oddball it might be a long wait. Right now it looks like I might have something to keep me busy while I wait for the ground to thaw

 

[tymcmurray]

Extremely nice recovery!!!!

Ty

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[Dman]

That's a great find
Dman

 

[umrgolf]

Superb find Johnny

Thanks man, but congrats might be premature until I can figure this dern thing out. I'm waiting for some input on a couple other places, but this is such an oddball it might be a long wait. Right now it looks like I might have something to keep me busy while I wait for the ground to thaw

Keep us updated.. if thats what it ends up being, that would be awesome

 

[scratcher]

johnnyi, I could be seeing this wrong- but does what I have circled appear to be part of a hinge??

 

[johnnyi]

johnnyi, I could be seeing this wrong- but does what I have circled appear to be part of a hinge??

Scratcher, yes, that is a hinge. I've been pondering this thing all day and I am at a loss. I've abandoned the idea of anything shoulder related, and I'm hovering around sash decoration of some sort that was pre-victorian but not necessarily military (althoughto me it does look masculine). The border of laurel leaves, coupled with the weight and clasp have me still a little hopeful. Although that is a hinge, I've discovered another "circle " remaining on the other side which suggest another pin went through there also (possibly indicating a semi-permanent mounting of some kind) Here's a shot and you can see the remains of that circle on the opposite side of the hinge. I've pretty thoroughly searched for any victorian sash ornament, as well as the remote possibility of the great-grandmother of all barrettes, but no luck yet.

 

[scratcher]

johnnyi, I could be seeing this wrong- but does what I have circled appear to be part of a hinge??

Scratcher, yes, that is a hinge. I've been pondering this thing all day and I am at a loss. I've abandoned the idea of anything shoulder related, and I'm hovering around sash decoration of some sort that was pre-victorian but not necessarily military (althoughto me it does look masculine). The border of laurel leaves, coupled with the weight and clasp have me still a little hopeful. Although that is a hinge, I've discovered another "circle " remaining on the other side which suggest another pin went through there also (possibly indicating a semi-permanent mounting of some kind) Here's a shot and you can see the remains of that circle on the opposite side of the hinge. I've pretty thoroughly searched for any victorian sash ornament, as well as the remote possibility of the great-grandmother of all barrettes, but no luck yet.

Now I get it. Thanks

 

[Woodland Detectors]

What a super last find John.

Can't complain about that.

I'd invite you here but were shut down too.

Happy new year. M&M