Looks knapped, any thoughts?

[PalmyraProspector]

Eastern Kansas find. Found this on the surface of a corn field while out metal detecting? Looks knapped on on edge, I was thinking maybe a thumb scraper or the start of a point that was discarded?

 

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[joshuaream]

Eastern Kansas find. Found this on the surface of a corn field while out metal detecting? Looks knapped on on edge, I was thinking maybe a thumb scraper or the start of a point that was discarded?

Looks worked to me. What does the other side look like? That might help clarify what it might have been.

 

[Relicgrubber]

Joshua is correct... Def Worked.

 

[PalmyraProspector]

Looks worked to me. What does the other side look like? That might help clarify what it might have been.

I added a pic of the back, should have done that sorry. Can see evidence of being worked with a finer knapping tool I think

 

[JacksonOfficialog]

Ok, my question is:

How deep was it? The deeper the object is or was, the older it is. The closer it is to the surface, the newer it is. Maybe, if you give me this information, it might explain something more about this object

 

[PalmyraProspector]

Ok, my question is:

How deep was it? The deeper the object is or was, the older it is. The closer it is to the surface, the newer it is. Maybe, if you give me this information, it might explain something more about this . it was on the surface of a corn field. So it was on the surface when I found it but since it’s in a farmed field it could have been buried for many years then

Ok, my question is:

How deep was it? The deeper the object is or was, the older it is. The closer it is to the surface, the newer it is. Maybe, if you give me this information, it might explain something more about this object

Surface of a corn field. But since it’s a farmed field it could have been deep at one point then dug up by a plow.

 

[Tdog]

Expedient cutting / scraping tool.

 

[joshuaream]

Expedient cutting / scraping tool.

I'd agree with this. They might have started out intending to make a point (making it a preform), but it looks like the material was too cooperative. It was probably used for a while and discarded.

 

[PalmyraProspector]

Expedient cutting / scraping tool.

Expedient cutting / scraping tool.

Thanks for your input!

 

[PalmyraProspector]

I'd agree with this. They might have started out intending to make a point (making it a preform), but it looks like the material was too cooperative. It was probably used for a while and discarded.

Thanks

 

[Older The Better]

I agree with the others, I’d add that it looks like the material stacked up on them, maybe they then pivoted to a rough blade or scraper, looks like it could be Burlington or maybe the lighter kind of reed springs chert. Depth can be an indicator but so can landscape position, I’ve pulled 1000 year old material from several feet and 9,000 year old stuff from the surface at the base of trees. Don’t get to see much Kansas stuff posted thanks for sharing

 

[PalmyraProspector]

I agree with the others, I’d add that it looks like the material stacked up on them, maybe they then pivoted to a rough blade or scraper, looks like it could be Burlington or maybe the lighter kind of reed springs chert. Depth can be an indicator but so can landscape position, I’ve pulled 1000 year old material from several feet and 9,000 year old stuff from the surface at the base of trees. Don’t get to see much Kansas stuff posted thanks for sharing

Thanks for your input, I’ve been researching and I’m thinking Burlington also. I never thought I would come across knapped stone in Kansas but turns out it’s around, hope to have more to share in the future!

 

[antmike915]

Agree with above comments

 

[Older The Better]

Thanks for your input, I’ve been researching and I’m thinking Burlington also. I never thought I would come across knapped stone in Kansas but turns out it’s around, hope to have more to share in the future!

Kansas definitely has artifacts. that’s where all of mine are from, they may not be as wide spread as other states. There has always been a scattering of villages but a lot of groups came into the area a few times a year to hunt and then went home leaving just small camps. Like anywhere it takes knowing where to look and a little luck to find stuff.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Ok, my question is:

How deep was it? The deeper the object is or was, the older it is. The closer it is to the surface, the newer it is. ....

Not necessarily true, many clovis finds were surface finds, erosion has a lot to do with it. I have found archaic points on the surface in fields.

 

[sandchip]

I agree that it is definitely worked, definitely an artifact and with Tdog's assessment.

As far as depth being an indicator of age, consider all the hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. that this country has experienced in 200+ years, then how many must have occurred over 10,000 years with all the uprooted trees, erosion and so on. Then all the burrowing animals over that period of time. Stuff brought to the surface, stuff caused to be dropped to a lower level, stuff exposed, stuff covered up, stuff washed away, stuff picked up and carried miles...it goes on and on. The Indians didn't have the luxuries of Doppler, early warning systems and projected storm tracks, so it should become clear that nothing is clear on how so many artifacts ended up where we happen to find them.

 

[PalmyraProspector]

I agree that it is definitely worked, definitely an artifact and with Tdog's assessment.

As far as depth being an indicator of age, consider all the hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. that this country has experienced in 200+ years, then how many must have occurred over 10,000 years with all the uprooted trees, erosion and so on. Then all the burrowing animals over that period of time. Stuff brought to the surface, stuff caused to be dropped to a lower level, stuff exposed, stuff covered up, stuff washed away, stuff picked up and carried miles...it goes on and on. The Indians didn't have the luxuries of Doppler, early warning systems and projected storm tracks, so it should become clear that nothing is clear on how so many artifacts ended up where we happen to find them.

Thanks for your reply, I found it in a farm field that gets plowed every year so depth of the things I find there mean nothing to me.