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Wondering about that post myself? I wanted to ask you what time period those triangle points are from.
 

i saw that one yesterday as well, and killer pieces/pics, i wanted to ask the same question, what date range?
 

Was it the Mongolian artifacts? I saw it late last night it was here. Fantastic frame of triangles???? Has to be a glitch it was a good post. I wanted to see it again today. :dontknow:
 

I have been on here a lot deleting this post and that post. I was asked by some and even other Mods to beef it up alittle. Being a Mod isn't easy, and you cant make every one happy. Its like kinda like being a referee in a game, you make a call that really erks some, while others are pleased. I may be wrong for deleting the post and if I am I'm sorry. The points you put up were from Asia I believe??? I don't know much about Asian points, but they looked like historical points, and at the time I didn't consider them Native American..... I like you Josh and respect you very much. I think you bring some good knowledge to the table. It sure wasn't an attack on you by any means...... John
 

John,

Honestly, deleting a post with a lot of pictures of pretty arrowheads, a hafted knife similar to what Larson finds, core blades like the ones Neanderthal and Uniface like to discuss, etc. I could see it if I had posted something unrelated to our common interest in collecting (eg beanie babies, antique furniture, metal detector questions, etc.), but ancient flaked tools don't seem to be too far off theme for this forum.

Not to be sarcastic... (Don't get me wrong, I think this is the place to share important personal news/events/interests because many of us don't routinely checkout the other sections of the forum.)

Just to clear up the "they looked like historical points" part, my interest in these pieces comes from my interest in early Native American relics. The Clovis culture ended with the Younger Dryas event, which was a short but intense ice age that opened up the Siberia/Alaska land bridge between 10,900 bc and 9500 bc. The Neolithic period in Asia started around 10,300 bc, so any of the post Clovis migrations across the land bridge from Siberia to Alaska would have technically been Asian Neolithic people.

I don't think that the person who made these points was the great grandpa to the guy who made your Cahokia points, but there very well could have been an indirect connection.

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A re-posting would be appreciated, now that it's (I hope) cleared up.

Your stuff is always gangbusters and interesting to boot.
 

I agree with you, and we will get it back on..... Man its a fine line, and I worry about Egyptian stuff coming abroad... They share some of the same period... I just worry about whats next???? They were nice points, collected by a collector that has the means to collect overseas.... Its almost like some of the new day natives wanting to claim our f i n ds , trying to link and take.... Its a fine line. I agree with you tho...
John
 

Here's my take on it, for what it's worth (which isn't much). I think it's important to discuss artifacts from all over, as they pertain to Native American. I always preach about comparative databases and studies and I think this is another case of it. The foreign items (in my mind anyways) do matter because it shows what their cultures and artifacts are like, as compared to ours. For instance, if someone were familiar with Mongolian relics or whatever, they stand a far less chance of getting one pawned off on them as Native American. But if you don't know what they look like, you'll have a much harder time trying to differentiate them. By the same token, if someone becomes familiar with modern reproductions and what to look for, they won't get burnt quite as easily by them.

Neolithic points have flooded the market and are fooling people every day. In all honesty, how many of you think you can tell the difference between most of the Neolithic points and Perdiz, Nodena, Cottonwood, Columbia Plateau? Most people can't, simply because they haven't seen enough of them. I personally love them, for their beauty and educational reasons alike. They are generally very well made and out of gem quality materials. But, I don't think it would be easy to get many by me either (I would wager Joshua is the same way)....I've handled quite a few. I think it's important that people should at least try to familiarize themselves with them if they plan on purchasing many artifacts. Knowledge is the key to everything.

It all comes around, there are ways to tie them in together to where it is all important to us as collectors, whether it be Native American or otherwise. It's also the same reason that I try not to focus on only one timeline, point type, or even region. You can never get the "big picture" if you restrict yourself to a small canvas.

This is only a personal opinion and in no way reflects on any person or post.
 

This I hope is not a place for people to learn about buying the right fake, or maybe real. Its a place to go to see what you found.... Its Treasurenet....... Its a place to go to find out what you found. again... .... You know to bounce it off other guys, gals.. It is a shame to go to the shows with your collection, and be blowd out by millionairs that have bought their whole collection from all over the world..... I find Mine.. I think if the right persons are involved. you can link em all....... Lets just call this "World Stone ARTIFACT FORUM
 

John, I understand this is the American Indian Artifacts forum, but I don't understand why we can't post pieces like Joshua's which were more then likely the precursor to our Native American heritage. I posted these Beads a while back and they were never deleted and they are from South America, and I know that is technically America, but from what you are saying the Mods only want North American artifacts here so why were these allowed to stay. I hope they change their minds and allow artifacts like Joshua's and mine to be posted and shown.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,349898.0.html
 

Joshua's post is back. Please do not put the blame on John, he's only doing what is best...he's reading American Indian Artifacts as we all are. SRV, your post may had been overlooked, (I did see it and those are some awesome beads) but IMHO I don't see any problem with a few artifacts from other countries. Yes, it would be a learning experience to see those cultures, long as they are labeled accordingly.

Do you think we need another thread labeled "World Native Artifacts"? :dontknow: Joshua's & SRV's posts are the only ones I've ever seen from other countries.

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River Rat, those are the only pieces I have from another country, but I know Joshua has a lot of very nice and cool artifacts from around the world and I'm sure some others do as well. I really don't see the harm in putting them on here as long as they are labeled as being from another place other than the U.S. I don't see how it would be any different from someone living in south Texas and posting pieces found along the Mexican side of the border.
 

I think the addition of a new forum topic is a great idea River Rat and Flintfiinder. It would be a place for anyone around the world who has found a early native artifact to post it there. American, Asian, European, and Island artifacts. Not in one group though. JMO................................ :icon_thumright:GTP
 

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