Motley Point?

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Northwest Missouri creek find, posting for a friend, would i be correct about this being a Motley Point?

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I'm no expert, but I would say yes, looks like a Motley to me. Nice find you'r friend made, Thanks for the view.
 

Looks like a motley to me as well, one of my favorite kinds of points
 

It's not a Motley - it appears to be a small Kay Blade.
 

What characteristic differentiates the 2 types? i can barely find any info on the Kay blade.
 

I don't know anything about a Kay blade, I do know Neanderthal probably knows what he's talking about. Here's the reference I used before responding.

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looks more motley to me though
 

Thanks guys all of the feedback is greatly appreciated. Anyone know what the notch is in the side of the blade, or is it broken?
 

Your friend found a nice one. Most likely damaged in use.
 

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Motley are associated with Poverty Point and not found anywhere near NW Missouri.

Kay Blades (not Kays), are pretty much a larger knife version of the Cupp point. They are named after Kay County, Oklahoma, are Mississippian in age and are often found in caches. It's a fine line, differentiating the Cupp and Kay blades, but Kay are larger (3"-4" on average) and the stems are generally more slender. They have a similar distribution range as the Cupp, but are most prevalent in the western fringes of the Ozarks, along the Grand / Neosho waterway, it's tributaries, and northward up to NW MO and NE KS.
 

I should have said kays with an s ( i think) because i wasn't sure
thanks for clearing that up matt
 

Looks MOTLEY to me.

Looks MOTLEY to me. Here is my best Motley pics......
 

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I agree with Neanderthal, I think it's a Kay. Motley generally has stronger ears and the base flares a bit more than Motley. Also, as Neanderthal says, they're a marker of Poverty Point. You can find an occasional point in Southern Missouri. I don't think it would be impossible to find one in northern Missouri but it's be an oddity. Nice find.
 

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