Need bullet ID please

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The reeded groove dates it after or around 1900, perhaps late 1800's when they started using that style of groove. CannonBallGuy knows the exact date for that. I'm not
a numbers guy, but 11/32 might be .38 caliber, but the hollow base is throwing me off. There are a couple of other guys on here that will know for sure.
 

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I don’t think it’s a ballet. The hollow end looks to deep.

If it is a bullet, the rings around would make it a newer one.

Hopefully some body who knows more about bullets will chime in.
 

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I thought the reeded rings were probably newer too. The hollow base has a conical shape.
 

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Looks like a hollow base target wadcutter in .38

The reeded grooves indicate it is swaged from wire rather than cast and that process is 1930's +/- to current.

Age - about 2,000 of them in my cellar for reloading currently. Probably 1960 to present. Here are two variations.

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Thanks for the replies all. Honestly, when I first dug it and saw the grooves and hollow end, I thought I had found another old black powder bullet. After cleaning, I lost hope in that. Thanks so much for the help.

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In my opinion the bullet is too damaged to definitely identify. Its "smushed" front no longer tells us whether its nose was pointed, rounded, conical-flat-tip, or flat (like CharlieP.'s wadcutters). Also, its hollow base is significantly out-of-round, so its diameter cannot be accurately measured. For example, the reported base measurement of 11/32-inch equals .34375-inch, which does not match the diameter of a FIRED .32, .357, or .36-caliber bullet.

The three remaining ID-clues are:
1- Two "reeded" body grooves. That type of bullet body-groove first appears in the late-1870s, so this bullet cannot be from earlier than that. (Sidenote: I'd previously been saying "approximately" 1880, but I recently saw a box of reeded-groove .38 Smith & Wesson bullets professionally estimated to have been made in 1877, so I'm now saying late-1870s.)
2- Deep conical cavity in base. Not long after the civil war, the design of "most" bullets had shifted to either a solid base or having only a small and/or shallow base-cavity. So, except for CharlieP.'s 20th-Century wadcutters, I lean toward this bullet being pre-20th-Century.
3- Weight is reported to be 9 grams, which translates to approximately 139 grains. Based on that weight, and being mindful of the deep cavity in its base which reduces its weight in comparison to a solid-based one, I estimate it to be a .38-caliber bullet.
 

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Thank you, sir. You are a great asset for this forum!
 

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