Phillip V reale

[gunsil]

This isn't really today's find but I was on vacation and could not post it when found. Went hunting an old no stone foundation cellar hole site with my good friend Dig-MV and found a toasted copper and what I believe is a Phillip V reale very worn. I can read PHILLIP and the assayer's mark seems to be I over P or F. If I over F it would be a Seville mintage from between 1717 and 1729. If anybody else has a better ID please let me know. The merc in the first pic is for size reference, we found no modern coins at this site. Dig-MV also found a sweet 1804 half cent with a counter stamp at this site. Sadly I had to come home and will not get to hunt this place again. If it is 1717-1729 it is the oldest non-cob silver coin I have found.

 

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[Bill D. (VA)]

The "I" you're seeing is not an assayer's mark, but is the denomination (1 reale) which is also confirmed based on its relative size in your first pic. Since this appears to be a Phillip V coin, the single assayer mark "P" stands for Pedro Remigio Gordillo who worked at the Seville mint from 1728 to 1757, and it will be difficult to narrow it down further than that without more detail.

 

[Terry Soloman]

Great find!!!!

 

[Scrappy]

The "I" you're seeing is not an assayer's mark, but is the denomination (1 reale) which is also confirmed based on its relative size in your first pic. Since this appears to be a Phillip V coin, the single assayer mark "P" stands for Pedro Remigio Gordillo who worked at the Seville mint from 1728 to 1757, and it will be difficult to narrow it down further than that without more detail.

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Nice ID Bill.

To the OP - great Spanish!

 

[treblehunter]

Nice find, congrats!

 

[Zachbl92]

Congrats on a nice old silver

 

[trapperart]

Congrats on the old silver and other finds

 

[Stef45]

Nice job! French Silver is always awesome!

 

[gunsil]

The "I" you're seeing is not an assayer's mark, but is the denomination (1 reale) which is also confirmed based on its relative size in your first pic. Since this appears to be a Phillip V coin, the single assayer mark "P" stands for Pedro Remigio Gordillo who worked at the Seville mint from 1728 to 1757, and it will be difficult to narrow it down further than that without more detail.

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Thanks Bill, but I believe you are mistaken here. I know it is a one reale without the dime, I have found a few others but they were all Carolus coins. My coin has no A below the P, it has a dot above and below the P which I believe is really and F since if you look at the 1717-1729 coins they have an I over an F with a dot above the I and below the F like mine does. I cannot seem to be able to copy and paste the pics of the 1717-1729 version.

Stef 45, it is a Spanish coin, not French.

Hey Scrappy, I visited with the Pooles last month and found these on the Island.

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

Thanks Bill, but I believe you are mistaken here. I know it is a one reale without the dime, I have found a few others but they were all Carolus coins. My coin has no A below the P, it has a dot above and below the P which I believe is really and F since if you look at the 1717-1729 coins they have an I over an F with a dot above the I and below the F like mine does. I cannot seem to be able to copy and paste the pics of the 1717-1729 version.

Stef 45, it is a Spanish coin, not French.

Hey Scrappy, I visited with the Pooles last month and found these on the Island.

The photo I provided was just an example to point out that the "I" represented the denomination and was not as assayers mark as your post seemed to imply. My example also happened to have a 2nd assayers mark (the "A"), but that had nothing to do with my explanation about your coin. Your coin only has a "P" assayers mark, and therefore I feel that my original comments are accurate. And that's definitely an "I" and not an "F" as that's the location on the coin where the denomination is normally displayed.

 

[Patriot Relics]

Congrats on the nice Spanish, glad you had enough detail for an ID

 

[against the wind]

Oh baby,, I'd be very happy with one of those.
Congratulations

 

[CASPER-2]

 

[vpnavy]

Nice coin! Thanks for sharing...

 

[Ahab8]

Killer Spanish gunsil! Awesome that you had a bit of detail left

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Great looking find!

 

[Z.K.]

Great find!

 

[gunsil]

The photo I provided was just an example to point out that the "I" represented the denomination and was not as assayers mark as your post seemed to imply. My example also happened to have a 2nd assayers mark (the "A"), but that had nothing to do with my explanation about your coin. Your coin only has a "P" assayers mark, and therefore I feel that my original comments are accurate. And that's definitely an "I" and not an "F" as that's the location on the coin where the denomination is normally displayed.

Thanks Bill, the 1717-1729 versions have an F where the points of the F are almost touching where the P is, not where the I is. I like the one you show, IPA is one of my favorite brews!!