Point I found over the weekend

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Could anyone identify this artifact for me? Found in a creek in Southern illinois
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I'm not familiar with Illinois point types but it's nice.
 

Has a Hardin look to it but probably a Hopewell due to the rounded base stem. Maybe someone from your area will know. It’s a very good looking point
 

Not Cody by any means imo.

Look into it being a Stringtown Lance or something closely related...
 

from the photo I thought hardin right off but when I read the comment on Scottsbluff, it possible it could be a Scottsbluff

an in person review or more information would be needed since the Scottsbluff and hardin have the same profile depending on resharpenings. the Scottsbluff a transitional paleo and the hardin a early archaic .

is the blade beveled from being resharpening? what is the cross section?
 

Based on the three arrowhead databases I search, I believe it is a Scottsbluff based on shape and location. Is the point appx 3.5-4" in length?
 

Based on the three arrowhead databases I search, I believe it is a Scottsbluff based on shape and location. Is the point appx 3.5-4" in length?
Yes it’s almost 4 inches
 

The flaking on that point is too poor to be a Scottsbluff. Hinge fractures all over it. Scotties always have impeccable collateral flaking, not random like the OPs point. . Check Google images for Scottsbluff points and you will see the flaking that I’m talking about.
 

I’m kind of in the not Scottsbluff camp as stated before Cody complex stuff seems to have top notch flaking. And I’ll trust Toddspoint has the term down with collateral but definitely a distinctive type of flaking
 

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