Thank you again! I have decided to take the mibs you ID and place them in their own little bins with a label. I am hoping (repeat: HOPING!) that maybe after I get a nice little pile going of each make, I will be able to see the similarities in them a little bit more. Thus far, I would say it is the Champions that "pop out" at me the most (kind of anyways). I have to go back and sort em out by maker because if I recall correctly there was one that didn't seem to fit as easily to a Champion ID so I would like to ask why the ID on that one. Gotta go back and check. Anywho, your help is much appreciated.